Do TLMs tend to be more available in well-to-do areas?
#21
could it be that the SSPX has a rural setting as an ideal  because of some of their members economic beliefs?
Reply
#22
(12-05-2010, 07:00 PM)love alabama Wrote: could it be that the SSPX has a rural setting as an ideal  because of some of their members economic beliefs?

I think it is due to the infection of distribu-socialism, yes.  It's unfortunate, too, since most of the folks who travel to attend those chapels don't live anywhere in the vicinity...the SSPX would be much better off locating closer to cities...not way off in the boonies.
Reply
#23
(12-05-2010, 03:36 AM)dark lancer Wrote:
(12-05-2010, 02:08 AM)Scipio_a Wrote: I have never seen a TLM... FSSP or SSPX in a wealthy area.  I'd be intersted to see your idea of "wealthy" also...my experience in the NE with TLMs is the same as my experience with them in the SW....usually poorer area....sometimes middle class.

Ridgefield, CT, where an early SSPX chapel was established, is a pretty decent area.  It's not Greenwich, CT or one of the other Connecticut Gold Coast towns, though, but the people are much more well-off than they are in my town.

Ridgefield is very much part of the Fairfield County elite towns.The houses immediately bordering the retreat center/parish sell for around $1-2 million. The most affordable house in Ridgefield will be a 1970's raised ranch that is falling down and that will be about $400,000.  You have to get out to Danbury, Bridgeport and Hartford before you get even close to affordable housing which is why so much of that parish commutes a goodly distance.
Reply
#24
(12-05-2010, 04:13 AM)Scipio_a Wrote: That's the retreat house...

Looks good from the air...kinda like my dad's area in lincroft, nj...space and big houses.

Glad the have the retreat house in a place like that rather than the pits the place everything else.

The property at Ridgefield swings too far the other way. While most of the SSPX chapels are either in the 'hood or in the boonies, Ridgefield is in an area where the vast majority of trad Catholics could never afford to live. The commute for most of the parishioners at Ridgefield is as bad as those commuting out of Denver to St. Isidore's or out of Dallas to Sanger.

I don't think that the SSPX intends to put churches anywhere, they build where the opportunity arises either through donation or availability.
Property in the boonies is cheaper than property in a populated area. There is a policy (I hear) now also where they SSPX will not establish a new chapel/mission unless there is room to grow and eventually have a priory and/or school. So whereever they build buy they must have enough space to house three priests (eventually) and buildings suitable for a school or space to build one. That is easier to attai in the sticks unless they can buy an ld church and atttached buildings in a metro area.
Reply
#25
(12-05-2010, 12:26 PM)alaric Wrote:
(12-05-2010, 03:10 AM)Joshua Wrote: My experiences have almost always been with TLMs celebrated to outside rhythms of rap and sub-woofers.  You can guess what kind of neighborhoods I'm talking about.
Thank God it's not Country and Western.

Leave that stuff for the strip mall, storefronts and mega-churches.

You kidding me? I'd prefer a patriotic country ballad over some incomprehensible, bass-rattling raucous involving drugs, strippers and bathing naked in Cristal.
Reply
#26
(12-05-2010, 08:39 PM)mom Wrote: I don't think that the SSPX intends to put churches anywhere, they build where the opportunity arises either through donation or availability.
Property in the boonies is cheaper than property in a populated area. There is a policy (I hear) now also where they SSPX will not establish a new chapel/mission unless there is room to grow and eventually have a priory and/or school. So whereever they build buy they must have enough space to house three priests (eventually) and buildings suitable for a school or space to build one. That is easier to attai in the sticks unless they can buy an ld church and atttached buildings in a metro area.

That's a really poor judgment call by someone...because most folks are having to commute really unreasonable distances...and there's NO WAY in a pig's eye that a priory or school are gonna rise up out of Sanger or N. Richland Hills anytime in the next 30-40 years at least.  It'll have to take the suburbs pushing so far north in Sanger's case...and NRH going thru urban renewal for the SSPX to attract enough people who live nearby to have the enrollment necessary to fund even a tiny school.  Just nuts.  Again, I think it's actually a result of the scourge of distribu-socialism upon the US branch of the SSPX.  They're shooting themselves in the foot.  It may be cheaper in the short run to buy out in the sticks...but there are protty groups moving out of buildings all the time in the 'burbs here...which would attract a much greater number of parishioners who could live nearby because at least in places like Plano one has a much higher chance of finding a well paying job (that would also allow one to pay for a private school tuition).
Reply
#27
Don't a lot of traditional Catholics move out to rural areas when the SSPX sets up shop? I'm thinking of St. Mary's in Kansas and, to a lesser extent, an SSPX apostolate in my state. Corpus Christi in Tynong. There are more parishioners at Corpus Christi than actual residents of Tynong. A lot of families moved to the country to be closer to the school.
Reply
#28
(12-05-2010, 11:07 PM)Servus_Maria Wrote: Don't a lot of traditional Catholics move out to rural areas when the SSPX sets up shop? I'm thinking of St. Mary's in Kansas and, to a lesser extent, an SSPX apostolate in my state. Corpus Christi in Tynong. There are more parishioners at Corpus Christi than actual residents of Tynong. A lot of families moved to the country to be closer to the school.

No, because jobs don't just sprout out of the ground.  I've heard from a lot of folks...that they'd like to go someplace like St. Mary's, but they can't find work.  Gotta have an income to afford a family...even in the sticks.
Reply
#29
(12-05-2010, 10:33 PM)Underdog Wrote:
(12-05-2010, 08:39 PM)mom Wrote: I don't think that the SSPX intends to put churches anywhere, they build where the opportunity arises either through donation or availability.
Property in the boonies is cheaper than property in a populated area. There is a policy (I hear) now also where they SSPX will not establish a new chapel/mission unless there is room to grow and eventually have a priory and/or school. So whereever they build buy they must have enough space to house three priests (eventually) and buildings suitable for a school or space to build one. That is easier to attai in the sticks unless they can buy an ld church and atttached buildings in a metro area.

That's a really poor judgment call by someone...because most folks are having to commute really unreasonable distances...and there's NO WAY in a pig's eye that a priory or school are gonna rise up out of Sanger or N. Richland Hills anytime in the next 30-40 years at least.  It'll have to take the suburbs pushing so far north in Sanger's case...and NRH going thru urban renewal for the SSPX to attract enough people who live nearby to have the enrollment necessary to fund even a tiny school.  Just nuts.  Again, I think it's actually a result of the scourge of distribu-socialism upon the US branch of the SSPX.  They're shooting themselves in the foot.  It may be cheaper in the short run to buy out in the sticks...but there are protty groups moving out of buildings all the time in the 'burbs here...which would attract a much greater number of parishioners who could live nearby because at least in places like Plano one has a much higher chance of finding a well paying job (that would also allow one to pay for a private school tuition).

what's distribu-socialism?
Reply
#30
(12-05-2010, 11:07 PM)Servus_Maria Wrote: Don't a lot of traditional Catholics move out to rural areas when the SSPX sets up shop? I'm thinking of St. Mary's in Kansas and, to a lesser extent, an SSPX apostolate in my state. Corpus Christi in Tynong. There are more parishioners at Corpus Christi than actual residents of Tynong. A lot of families moved to the country to be closer to the school.


WHere does that phenomenon  come from?
Reply




Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)