Dan Rather Interviews Bishop Fellay
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"Is the Pope supporting a movement to bring the Church back to pre-Vatican II practices? TONIGHT, Tuesday, December 7 at 8:00 p.m. ET

DALLAS, Dec. 7, 2010 /PRNewswire/ -- Tonight, "Dan Rather Reports" investigates some subtle changes - and some not so subtle - that may indicate a conservative shift in the Roman Catholic Church. Is Pope Benedict the XVI supporting these changes, or simply trying to heal rifts within the Church itself?


In the 1960's, under Pope John XXIII, and Pope Paul VI, the Second Ecumenical Council of the Vatican, or Vatican II made changes to the Roman Catholic liturgy including conducting Mass in the native vernacular, instead of Latin, and allowing priests to face the congregation. These changes made it look as if a new more liberal view would shape the Church in the coming years.

However, it seems as if lately, and somewhat quietly, the Church is slowly becoming more conservative under Pope Benedict XVI.

One of the bigger indicators of this shift is the Vatican bringing a group called "The Priestly Society of St. Pius X," (or SSPX) back into the fold. The group was excommunicated in the 1980's for being too conservative in their practices after Vatican II."


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"We must remain faithful to the present  day, not to its past, nor to its future.  And this present day of the Church consists in the documents of Vatican II in their authenticity. ...  If by 'restoration' a return to a pre-Vatican II position is meant, then there is no possibility of a restoration.  The Church is marching along the road of History's fulfillment, its eyes riveted upon the coming Lord.  No, we have no intention of going back nor can we do so" (Fr. Ratzinger, Entretien sur la Foi, pp. 32, 40).

The above quote can be found in the SSPX's They Think They've Won! series (Part VIII: SiSiNoNo, October 1994, Reprint No. 10).

http://www.sspxasia.com/Documents/SiSiNo...rtVIII.htm


:pray:  that the Holy Father has been given the grace by God to restore Tradition in the Church.
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Wow, Dan Rather?  That's some mainstream attention.  For reason, I don't think that's a good thing...
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Did you see the SSPX was excommunicated because they adhered to pre-Vatican II ? No mention of the four Bishops for old Dandy Dan Rather, just the cardinal sin of they aren't liberal enough. Too bad, he can't get it straight. I don't know where this report will be but if I find it I'll watch the enemies at the gate.
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(12-08-2010, 09:10 AM)Ockham Wrote: One of the bigger indicators of this shift is the Vatican bringing a group called "The Priestly Society of St. Pius X," (or SSPX) back into the fold. The group was excommunicated in the 1980's for being too conservative in their practices after Vatican II."


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This is one of those media statements which is incorrect on its face, but on second thought might be pretty close to the truth.
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Here is a pdf of the program:

http://www.hd.net/cgi-perl/transcripts_s...l?id=A6686
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(12-08-2010, 01:26 PM)Antonius Block Wrote: Here is a pdf of the program:

http://www.hd.net/cgi-perl/transcripts_s...l?id=A6686

Thanks for finding this.  They contrast the SSPX seminarians with this group of 3 older ladies who love the changes of VII.  They mention how their priest changed the words in the Mass before reception from "I am not worthy to receive you" to "I am worthy".  Not to sound whatever, but that's not just an abuse.  It's fundamentally demonic.
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Ugh, I thought it was going OK until the end.

"NOW, AN UPDATE OF ANOTHER STORY WE REPORTED ON ABOUT THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH EARLIER THIS YEAR...AN INVESTIGATION INTO HOW THE CHURCH HIERARCHY HAS BEEN DOING WHATEVER IT TAKES TO PROTECT ITS VAST WEALTH FROM SEX ABUSE VICTIMS. "

Sorry it's all caps... I just copy/pasted from the transcript.
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(12-08-2010, 11:50 AM)Christus Imperat Wrote:
(12-08-2010, 09:10 AM)Ockham Wrote: One of the bigger indicators of this shift is the Vatican bringing a group called "The Priestly Society of St. Pius X," (or SSPX) back into the fold. The group was excommunicated in the 1980's for being too conservative in their practices after Vatican II."


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This is one of those media statements which is incorrect on its face, but on second thought might be pretty close to the truth.


This is my personal theory on the matter.  Liberals in the Vatican wanted the SSPX gone so they wouldn't impede their modernist agenda.
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Oh my...
Buy it on Itunes for a good laugh at the stark differences between the two factions...
Wonder who's gonna win...hmm...
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