Old Earth
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This is all very interesting, but it is also assuming that "time", by whatever measure that is made, is constant.  As we cannot be certain of this beyond the extant calendars (to the crudest, earliest calendars), then we cannot be sure.  If someone once lived to 900 years, then that means they lived through what we know identify as 900 complete transits around the Sun.  If the Earth was previously closer to the Sun (and the Sun was cooler, or the atmosphere thicker, or the magnetic field strong, etc, etc to protect life, assuming life was as vulnerable then as it is today), then one "year" would be much "shorter" that it it today.  Likewise, if the Earth traveled faster in transit than it does today, then a year would be shorter.  If the planet were further or slower, then the year would be longer.  We are assuming that the historical measure of time are in fact in "years" insofar as the movement of the sun/change of seasons.  We don't know this to actually be true, and we do not know that a previous year is equal in length of time to the current year.  We just assume.

There are so many assumptions, as others have pointed out (the assumed levels for carbon dating comparisons is just one).  We have no clue about any of this.  We are constantly subject to these perceptions of ours.  That is what makes the Word of God so valuable and indispensable: we KNOW that's true, period.  The rest?  Who knows.  We're all really good at imagining and lying and manipulating...and it is all rather irrelevant, anyway.  I don't even bother with arguments about the age of the universe or Earth or the flood or anything with atheists: you have to get them to believe in the concept of truth in the first place (something greater than their own opinions), because that is what starts faith (the belief in TRUTH). 

Just out of curiosity, does it add a person's sense of faith if there is evidence of the "old earth" or "young earth" or the like?  I, honestly, ask because I almost think it is an ego-trap: who are we to think we know these things anyway?  The only things we know to be true are the words of God, and that is it.  Other things, observations, theories, etc are only likely to be true...and all of them can be overwhelmed by God (through what we call miracles).  So, curiously, what advantage does it offer, I guess I'm asking?
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Old Earth - by James02 - 12-30-2010, 12:22 AM
Re: Old Earth - by dymphna17 - 12-30-2010, 12:43 AM
Re: Old Earth - by James02 - 12-30-2010, 01:06 AM
Re: Old Earth - by Texican - 12-30-2010, 01:12 AM
Re: Old Earth - by miss_fluffy - 12-30-2010, 01:15 AM
Re: Old Earth - by James02 - 12-30-2010, 02:00 AM
Re: Old Earth - by Vetus Ordo - 12-30-2010, 02:33 AM
Re: Old Earth - by Hawaii Five-0 - 12-30-2010, 04:36 AM
Re: Old Earth - by icecream - 12-30-2010, 06:49 AM
Re: Old Earth - by icecream - 12-30-2010, 06:50 AM
Re: Old Earth - by Nic - 12-30-2010, 07:32 AM
Re: Old Earth - by miss_fluffy - 12-30-2010, 09:09 AM
Re: Old Earth - by Anastasia - 12-30-2010, 11:48 AM
Re: Old Earth - by timoose - 12-30-2010, 12:32 PM
Re: Old Earth - by Grasshopper - 12-30-2010, 04:13 PM
Re: Old Earth - by James02 - 12-30-2010, 04:15 PM
Re: Old Earth - by James02 - 12-30-2010, 04:20 PM
Re: Old Earth - by miss_fluffy - 12-30-2010, 04:52 PM
Re: Old Earth - by Nic - 12-31-2010, 07:58 AM
Re: Old Earth - by salus - 01-01-2011, 02:04 PM
Re: Old Earth - by justlurking - 01-01-2011, 05:33 PM
Re: Old Earth - by Vetus Ordo - 01-01-2011, 06:05 PM
Re: Old Earth - by Nic - 01-01-2011, 06:15 PM
Re: Old Earth - by LaramieHirsch - 01-01-2011, 06:30 PM
Re: Old Earth - by miss_fluffy - 01-01-2011, 06:36 PM
Re: Old Earth - by Christus Imperat - 01-01-2011, 07:50 PM
Re: Old Earth - by timoose - 01-01-2011, 08:01 PM
Re: Old Earth - by InNomineDomini - 01-01-2011, 08:37 PM
Re: Old Earth - by Nic - 01-02-2011, 07:52 AM
Re: Old Earth - by timoose - 01-02-2011, 08:54 AM
Re: Old Earth - by Nic - 01-02-2011, 10:00 AM
Re: Old Earth - by devotedknuckles - 01-02-2011, 10:28 AM
Re: Old Earth - by Nic - 01-02-2011, 10:38 AM
Re: Old Earth - by devotedknuckles - 01-02-2011, 11:25 AM
Re: Old Earth - by SouthpawLink - 01-06-2011, 02:51 PM
Re: Old Earth - by CrusaderKing - 01-06-2011, 03:16 PM
Re: Old Earth - by timoose - 01-06-2011, 03:58 PM
Re: Old Earth - by someguy - 01-23-2011, 10:57 PM
Re: Old Earth - by quotidianum - 01-24-2011, 12:55 AM
Re: Old Earth - by James02 - 01-24-2011, 01:16 AM
Re: Old Earth - by miss_fluffy - 01-24-2011, 01:39 AM
Re: Old Earth - by quotidianum - 01-24-2011, 01:44 AM
Re: Old Earth - by James02 - 01-24-2011, 01:51 AM
Re: Old Earth - by quotidianum - 01-24-2011, 01:59 AM
Re: Old Earth - by faith3faith - 01-24-2011, 04:27 PM
Re: Old Earth - by Atomagenesis - 01-24-2011, 04:52 PM
Re: Old Earth - by Jesse - 01-24-2011, 05:24 PM
Re: Old Earth - by James02 - 01-24-2011, 05:51 PM
Re: Old Earth - by faith3faith - 01-25-2011, 12:25 AM
Re: Old Earth - by Jesse - 01-25-2011, 11:33 AM
Re: Old Earth - by James02 - 01-25-2011, 04:24 PM
Re: Old Earth - by Jesse - 01-25-2011, 04:42 PM
Re: Old Earth - by James02 - 01-25-2011, 05:06 PM
Re: Old Earth - by Jesse - 01-25-2011, 05:34 PM
Re: Old Earth - by James02 - 01-25-2011, 09:27 PM
Re: Old Earth - by cgraye - 01-26-2011, 12:17 PM
Re: Old Earth - by someguy - 02-01-2011, 11:13 PM
Re: Old Earth - by faith3faith - 02-02-2011, 02:05 AM
Re: Old Earth - by geogeer - 02-02-2011, 07:11 PM
Re: Old Earth - by James02 - 02-02-2011, 11:39 PM
Re: Old Earth - by cgraye - 02-03-2011, 12:14 AM
Re: Old Earth - by faith3faith - 02-04-2011, 12:25 AM
Re: Old Earth - by Jesse - 02-05-2011, 12:50 PM
Re: Old Earth - by faith3faith - 02-05-2011, 10:51 PM



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