Old Earth
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(01-24-2011, 01:39 AM)miss_fluffy Wrote: This was a sticking point for me.  I could not justify the conflict between accepting Jesus as God is accurately recorded in the bible, but all that other old testament stuff is just there for the "stories".  In fact, from a non-believer standpoint, it was more difficult to believe the fantastical idea that Jesus is God, than any other thing in the bible. ....

The miracle is the same, something from nothingness.  So if you're going to believe the fantastic and completely unscientific idea that Jesus miraculously appeared from nothing in Mary's womb, why not believe that the appearance of the universe and all that is in it was achieved in a similar fashion?  Why not give the bible the benefit of the doubt, for Jesus said it was correct.   It might seem fantastical because of the way the earth moves now, and many atheistic imaginations have been trying to come up with non-God theories on the origins of the earth.  But this doesn't mean God could not have created the earth so quickly, and all of the magnetic fields and energies and as-yet-unknown forces could have easily confused our understanding about how to tell the age of things.

Well said---I understand.  I guess the distinction that I would make between the Old and New Testament records is that in the NT, the authors were people who were actually there, directly witnessing the events of Jesus' life and death and resurrection, and so they are "more" historical than accounts in the OT, which are of course equally inspired by the Holy Ghost, but which are revelations.  It is sort of like John in Apocalypse: obviously, the book is divinely inspired, but is everything literal as we would take it "literally"?  No, we know that it is highly symbolic.  Saint John was being shown and revealed information for events that he was not "actually" witnessing (though I do believe he was witnessing them, just not in the sense of "witness" like the way he witnessed Jesus with his human eyes), so are his words literal or deeper?  Could the same be said of the revelations to the OT authors, as they do NOT claim to have personally witnessed the events of the Garden and other things, while they most certainly did witness other events?  
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Old Earth - by James02 - 12-30-2010, 12:22 AM
Re: Old Earth - by dymphna17 - 12-30-2010, 12:43 AM
Re: Old Earth - by James02 - 12-30-2010, 01:06 AM
Re: Old Earth - by Texican - 12-30-2010, 01:12 AM
Re: Old Earth - by miss_fluffy - 12-30-2010, 01:15 AM
Re: Old Earth - by James02 - 12-30-2010, 02:00 AM
Re: Old Earth - by Vetus Ordo - 12-30-2010, 02:33 AM
Re: Old Earth - by Hawaii Five-0 - 12-30-2010, 04:36 AM
Re: Old Earth - by icecream - 12-30-2010, 06:49 AM
Re: Old Earth - by icecream - 12-30-2010, 06:50 AM
Re: Old Earth - by Nic - 12-30-2010, 07:32 AM
Re: Old Earth - by miss_fluffy - 12-30-2010, 09:09 AM
Re: Old Earth - by Anastasia - 12-30-2010, 11:48 AM
Re: Old Earth - by timoose - 12-30-2010, 12:32 PM
Re: Old Earth - by Grasshopper - 12-30-2010, 04:13 PM
Re: Old Earth - by James02 - 12-30-2010, 04:15 PM
Re: Old Earth - by James02 - 12-30-2010, 04:20 PM
Re: Old Earth - by miss_fluffy - 12-30-2010, 04:52 PM
Re: Old Earth - by Nic - 12-31-2010, 07:58 AM
Re: Old Earth - by salus - 01-01-2011, 02:04 PM
Re: Old Earth - by justlurking - 01-01-2011, 05:33 PM
Re: Old Earth - by Vetus Ordo - 01-01-2011, 06:05 PM
Re: Old Earth - by Nic - 01-01-2011, 06:15 PM
Re: Old Earth - by LaramieHirsch - 01-01-2011, 06:30 PM
Re: Old Earth - by miss_fluffy - 01-01-2011, 06:36 PM
Re: Old Earth - by Christus Imperat - 01-01-2011, 07:50 PM
Re: Old Earth - by timoose - 01-01-2011, 08:01 PM
Re: Old Earth - by InNomineDomini - 01-01-2011, 08:37 PM
Re: Old Earth - by Nic - 01-02-2011, 07:52 AM
Re: Old Earth - by timoose - 01-02-2011, 08:54 AM
Re: Old Earth - by Nic - 01-02-2011, 10:00 AM
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Re: Old Earth - by devotedknuckles - 01-02-2011, 11:25 AM
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Re: Old Earth - by someguy - 01-23-2011, 10:57 PM
Re: Old Earth - by quotidianum - 01-24-2011, 12:55 AM
Re: Old Earth - by James02 - 01-24-2011, 01:16 AM
Re: Old Earth - by miss_fluffy - 01-24-2011, 01:39 AM
Re: Old Earth - by quotidianum - 01-24-2011, 01:44 AM
Re: Old Earth - by James02 - 01-24-2011, 01:51 AM
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Re: Old Earth - by faith3faith - 01-24-2011, 04:27 PM
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Re: Old Earth - by Jesse - 01-24-2011, 05:24 PM
Re: Old Earth - by James02 - 01-24-2011, 05:51 PM
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Re: Old Earth - by faith3faith - 02-02-2011, 02:05 AM
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Re: Old Earth - by James02 - 02-02-2011, 11:39 PM
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