There is No Such Thing as a Homosexual Catholic Priest
(02-23-2011, 08:19 PM)Catholic Johnny Wrote:
(02-23-2011, 02:03 PM)QuisUtDeus Wrote: [Here's another document:

Quote:http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congre...ne_en.html

Instruction
Concerning the Criteria for the Discernment of Vocations
with regard to Persons with Homosexual Tendencies
in view of their Admission to the Seminary and to Holy Orders

From the time of the Second Vatican Council until today, various Documents of the Magisterium, and especially the Catechism of the Catholic Church, have confirmed the teaching of the Church on homosexuality. The Catechism distinguishes between homosexual acts and homosexual tendencies.

Again:

Quote:http://www.newadvent.org/library/docs_df86ho.htm

Today, the Church provides a badly needed context for the care of the human person when she refuses to consider the person as a "heterosexual" or a "homosexual" and insists that every person has a fundamental Identity: the creature of God, and by grace, his child and heir to eternal life.

How much more clear can it be than that last statement?

Really, other things aside, I think you are behaving dishonorably by purposefully misrepresenting what the Church has said to further your own ideas. 

Which makes it probably a good time to address the other bee in your bonnet: "homosexual persons"

Homosexual is an adjective.  It can be used substantively to be a noun ("a homosexual"), but it is at its root an adjective.  There is nothing nefarious about  the Church using "homosexual person" any more than "homosexual behavior" or "homosexual bar", or when it uses other terms such as "indigenous peoples".  "Homosexual person" merely spells out what "homosexual" used substantively means.  You cannot change "person" to "identity" with no basis other than your imagination, especially in light of the fact that the Church in the same documents you find fault with has clearly said it's a tendency, it's disordered, it's not an identity, etc.

I think the red text says enough.

Again, appropriating things things out of context.  The first "today" refers to current problems that have come up with a misinterpretation.  The second "today", with the cultural situation that is amoral.

Quote:Your dismissal of CCC 2333 is disappointing.  "2333. Everyone, man and woman, should acknowledge and accept his sexual identity."   Somehow in your reading of this passage, everyone does not mean everyone.  OK then!  ???

Yes, my reading of the passage is assuming good will on the part of the Catechism and the Church.  Yours assumes bad will.  Yours also assumes that "homosexual" is a sexual identity.  I do not, and neither does the Church as evidenced by the comment on Identity in the other document.  For a homosexual to embrace his sexual identity means for a man to embrace being a man and not engage in homosexual acts.
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