There is No Such Thing as a Homosexual Catholic Priest
(03-03-2011, 10:49 AM)James02 Wrote: Uh, this is the opposite of Rand, who was for precision, and  a great admirer of Aristotle and Aquinas.

Think of this statement: I won't let X "define" me.  What the heck does that mean?  It is a dadaism of the modern world.  A meaningless feel good phase. 

No, anyone using such language around Rand would probably have been slapped.  The term "homosexual" does not define someone.  It merely states that someone has a same-sex attraction.  That is all.

Then why this language in the CCC?

2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection

Answer:  because the DSM-II eliminated homosexuality from its list of serious mental disorders in 1973 (though no science supported such a change and much was relegated to the ash heap in deference to it).  Nothing theological there.  In 1975, official church documents still used the term homosexuals (itself a neologism with no real scientific or etymological roots before Freud) but added "persons" in 1986, which language surfaced here in the 1992 CCC creating a new category of personhood that confusingly calls the "homosexual person" to chastity and then defines chastity only in "heterosexual" terms.

2333 Everyone, man and woman, should acknowledge and accept his sexual identity. Physical, moral, and spiritual difference and complementarity are oriented toward the goods of marriage and the flourishing of family life. The harmony of the couple and of society depends in part on the way in which the complementarity, needs, and mutual support between the sexes are lived out.


2337 Chastity means the successful integration of sexuality within the person and thus the inner unity of man in his bodily and spiritual being. Sexuality, in which man's belonging to the bodily and biological world is expressed, becomes personal and truly human when it is integrated into the relationship of one person to another, in the complete and lifelong mutual gift of a man and a woman.

The virtue of chastity therefore involves the integrity of the person and the integrality of the gift

This is swallowing the 'science' of personality theory hook, line and sinker.  It creates a new category of personhood unknown in Catholic tradition before the 1980s.  And it is manifestly a gateway for Modernists to exploit by ordaining "homosexual persons" to the priesthood who claim to be living in chastity as homosexual persons, which, even by the imprecise language of the 1992 CCC would be impossible.

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