NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS!
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This topic is defiantly moving up on the “silliest things to argue about” list.

I have Logo’s Libronix Digital Library’s http://www.logos.com/ “Catholic Scholars Pack” (which is unfortunately a discontinued product).

I opened six bibles: Douay-Rheims (Bishop Challoner revision), New American, New Jerusalem, King James, Revised Standard, and New Revised Standard.

I ran a search for the word “holocaust”, with 286 returns, and that word ONLY appears in the DR and the NAB, not the others.

I ran a search for “burnt offering”, with 336 returns, and that phrase appears in ALL six bibles, including the DR.

Going back to a parallel list of the DR and NAB, where a verse in either included the word “holocaust”, it appears the translators of both works used the word / phrase “holocaust” and “burnt offering” interchangeable (the NAB uses “holocaust” 262 times, the DR 243 times).

Two examples, out of a large multitude that could be given:
Exodus 29:18 the DR uses “burnt offering” and the NAB uses “holocaust”.
St. Mark 12:33 the DR uses “holocaust” and the NAB uses “burnt offering”.

I don’t have time to go back and look at the underlying Hebrew, Greek, or Latin word(s) where “holocaust” and “burnt offering” are used (which is a fun thing that can be done with the Libronix Digital Library software).  However, as the KJV and RSV (as well as the New Jerusalem and NRSV) use the phrase “burnt offering” exclusively (the word “holocaust” does not appear anywhere in those editions), one might surmise one of two things:

1.  There are different Latin (DR) or  Hebrew / Greek (NAB) words in the original texts, and the DR and NAB translators used either “holocaust” or “burnt offering” to translate those different words; OR
2. The translators of the DR and NAB just decided to “mix it up” (and as shown by the two scriptural examples I gave, the respective translators weren’t consistent in how they chose to “mixe it up”).  I am a bit curious as to if St. Jerome used different Latin words or phrases in these incidences (the Libronix Digital Library “Catholic Scholars Pack” does have the Vulgate, as well as the Hebrew and Greek bibles), but taking time for that research will likely need to wait until a deep snowed in day next winter.

I have no clue as to why a decision was made to revise the NAB translations, but I really have better things to do than to engage in wild speculation.  Likewise, I probable am prone to think that the U.S. bishops have better things to do than worry about revising the NAB, as it seems adequate to its purpose now, and they should have more pressing things to worry about.  That said, given that the KJV uses “burnt offering” exclusively in places where the DR and NAB randomly use either “burnt offering” or “holocaust”, and as King James (and his translation team) hardly had any concern for “what the Jews might think”, I seriously doubt they had any “political correctness” issues for using “burnt offering” rather than “holocaust”.  I seriously doubt that is the situation today.  Most likely it is a case of being more consistent in presenting the text (as has been shown, both the DR and the NAB rather randomly use either “burnt offering” or “holocaust” in what is seemingly the same context, and every other major English language bible, including the Catholic New Jerusalem, uses “burnt offering” rather than “holocaust” in all incidences), and that seems to be the situation now.  Though, I still think the bishops might have better things to worry about at the moment.


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NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by voxpopulisuxx - 03-02-2011, 06:56 PM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by salus - 03-02-2011, 06:59 PM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by timoose - 03-02-2011, 07:11 PM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by damooster - 03-02-2011, 07:36 PM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by Baskerville - 03-02-2011, 08:08 PM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by Bearded Man - 03-02-2011, 08:11 PM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by Baskerville - 03-02-2011, 08:14 PM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by Baskerville - 03-02-2011, 08:15 PM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by Vetus Ordo - 03-02-2011, 09:21 PM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by dymphna17 - 03-02-2011, 09:33 PM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by Dust - 03-02-2011, 10:01 PM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by DrBombay - 03-02-2011, 10:40 PM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by Resurrexi - 03-02-2011, 10:41 PM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by Anastasia - 03-02-2011, 10:51 PM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by Historian - 03-02-2011, 11:17 PM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by Adam Wayne - 03-02-2011, 11:52 PM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by Baskerville - 03-03-2011, 12:16 AM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by Baskerville - 03-03-2011, 12:21 AM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by Resurrexi - 03-03-2011, 12:55 AM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by Walty - 03-03-2011, 01:26 AM
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Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by Adam Wayne - 03-03-2011, 05:12 PM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by dymphna17 - 03-03-2011, 05:22 PM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by Resurrexi - 03-03-2011, 06:47 PM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by Vetus Ordo - 03-03-2011, 07:05 PM
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Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by Baskerville - 03-03-2011, 07:15 PM
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Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by Vetus Ordo - 03-03-2011, 08:47 PM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by Adam Wayne - 03-04-2011, 11:23 AM
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Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by moneil - 03-04-2011, 03:28 PM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by Historian - 03-05-2011, 02:15 AM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by Vincentius - 03-07-2011, 07:52 AM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by mikemac - 03-07-2011, 04:43 PM
Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by Unum Sint - 03-08-2011, 01:53 AM
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Re: NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS! - by Unum Sint - 03-10-2011, 10:46 PM
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