NEW BIBLE FROM WACK BISHOPS!
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Now, onto the more controversial translation of Isaiah 7:14

NAB: Therefore the Lord himself will give you this sign: the virgin shall be with child, and bear a son, and shall name him Immanuel.
DR: Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign. Behold a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son and his name shall be called Emmanuel.
New Jerusalem: The Lord will give you a sign in any case: It is this: the young woman is with child and will give birth to a son whom she will call Immanuel.
RSV: Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, a young woman shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanu-el.
NRSV: Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Look, the young woman is with child and shall bear a son, and shall name him Immanuel.
KJV: Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Vulgate: propter hoc dabit Dominus ipse vobis signum ecce virgo concipiet et pariet filium et vocabitis nomen eius Emmanuhel

The http://www.latin-dictionary.org translates “virgo” as maiden| young woman| girl of marriagable age; virgin| woman sexually intact

Septuaginta: διὰ του̂το δώσει κύριος αὐτὸς ὑμι̂ν σημει̂ον, ἰδοὺ ἡ παρθένος ἐν γαστρὶ ἕξει καὶ τέξεται υἱόν, καὶ καλέσεις τὸ ὄνομα αὐτου̂ Εμμανουηλ,

The Logos Greek dictionary translates “παρθένος” as a maiden, virgin, girl; virgin, chaste.
Enhanced Strong’s Lexicon:
3933 παρθένος [parthenos /par•then•os/] Of unknown origin; 14 occurrences; AV translates as “virgin” 14 times. 1 a virgin. 1A a marriageable maiden. 1B a woman who has never had sexual intercourse with a man. 1C one’s marriageable daughter. 2 a man who has abstained from all uncleanness and whoredom attendant on idolatry, and so has kept his chastity. 2A one who has never had intercourse with women.

Hebrew: לָכֵן יִתֵּן אֲדֹנָי הוּא לָכֶם אוֹת הִנֵּה הָעַלְמָה הָרָה וְיֹלֶדֶת בֵּן וְקָרָאת שְׁמוֹ עִמָּנוּ אֵל׃
Enhanced Strong’s Lexicon
5959 עַלְמָה [`almah /al•maw/] From 5958; Seven occurrences; AV translates as “virgin” four times, “maid” twice, and “damsels” once. 1 virgin, young woman. 1A of marriageable age. 1B maid or newly married.

It would appear, from a variety of sources, that both “virgin” and “young woman” (as well as maiden, damsel and chaste, and that the Greek could refer to either a male or a female) are acceptable and accurate translations of “virgo”, “παρθένος”, and עַלְמָה

Not long ago I listened to a talk on the radio by Father John Corapi on how Catholics need to read scripture.  I need to paraphrase from memory, but 1.  Scripture needs to be read and understood in light of the Church’s Tradition and Doctrine; 2.  Scripture needs to be “in context” (i.e., be careful of taking a verse or word and getting carried away with discerning a meaning, without understanding the whole context of the section).  3.  The bible needs to be read “in its totality”, which is to say that to understand the meaning and context of a verse, it must be read in the context of how that particular “topic” is treated or mentioned through out the bible.  An example would be that to understand the “application” of the dietary laws of the Old Testament one also would be cognizant of those regulations having been eliminated by the Council of Jerusalem, as recorded in the Acts of the Apostles.  And again, any “personal understanding” of what a text might mean is always tested against the Church’s Tradition and Doctrine, and the magisterial interpretation of that text.

That all being said, I have no scholarly background to discern whether “virgin” or “young woman” would be the best or most appropriate translation for Isaiah 7:14, but either appear to accurately express the meaning of the underlying Hebrew, Greek or Latin word, and I really don’t see how belief in the virginal conception of Jesus is undermined by one or the other.  But, that’s just my opinion.
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