OK, a Catholicism 101 question that I should know the answer to  :-[ .....if Holy Saturday evening Mass is the vigil for Easter, does it "count" for Sunday?
The Easter Vigil has different readings from Sunday but it counts for Sunday.
In the NO the Easter the regular Saturday vigil Masses count for Sunday. In the Catholic Church, Saturday is Saturday and Sunday is Sunday.

If the Easter Vigil Mass begins at midnight as it's supposed to, it's a moot point.
In our archdiocese (as I'm sure most if not all dioceses) the Easter Vigil begins after dark. We begin at 9PM and it runs over 2 hours. It definitely counts for Sunday, same as the Vigil of Christmas and Midnight Mass counts for Christmas.
The liturgical day really doesn't begin at midnight - it begins earlier.  There is a lot of confusion around this issue.  The fact that the Church changed a lot of requirements even pre-V2 doesn't help.

If you go to a traditional Easter Vigil, it counts for Easter Sunday by all criteria.  But it has to be the Vigil Mass.
(03-27-2011, 02:02 PM)Petertherock Wrote: In the NO the Easter the regular Saturday vigil Masses count for Sunday. In the Catholic Church, Saturday is Saturday and Sunday is Sunday.

That's not quite right.  The Easter Vigil counts even though it begins on Saturday by calendar time.  The question is liturgical time which is different.

Technically there is no Mass on Holy Saturday as part of Tenebrae.


Quote:The service of Holy Saturday has lost much of the significance and importance which it enjoyed in the early Christian centuries owing to the irresistible tendency manifested throughout the ages to advance the hour of its celebration. Originally it was the great Easter vigil, or watch-service, held only in the late hours of the Saturday and barely terminating before midnight. To this day the brevity of both the Easter Mass and the Easter Matins preserves a memorial of the fatigue of that night watch which terminated the austerities of Lent. Again the consecration of the new fire with a view to the lighting of the lamps, the benediction of the paschal candle, with its suggestions of night turned into day and its reminder of the glories of that vigil which we know to have been already celebrated in the time of Constantine, not to dwell upon the explicit references to "this most holy night" contained in the prayers and the Preface of the Mass, all bring home the incongruity of carrying out the service in the morning, twelve hours before the Easter "vigil" can strictly speaking be said to have begun. The obtaining and blessing of the new fire is probably a rite of Celtic or even pagan origin, incorporated in the Gallican Church service of the eighth century. The magnificent "Praeconium Paschale", known from its first word as the "Exsultet", was originally, no doubt, an improvisation of the deacon which can be traced back to the time of St. Jerome or earlier. The Prophecies, the Blessing of the Font, and the Litanies of the Saints are all to be referred to what was originaly a very essential feature of the Easter vigil, viz., the baptism of the catechumens, whose preparation had been carried on during Lent, emphasized at frequent intervals by the formal "scrutinies", of which not a few traces are still preserved in our Lenten liturgy. Finally, the Mass, with its joyous Gloria, at which the bells are again rung, the uncovering of the veiled statues and pictures, the triumphant Alleluias, which mark nearly every step of the liturgy, proclaim the Resurrection as an accomplished fact, while the Vesper Office, incorporated in the very fabric of the Mass, reminds us once more that the evening was formerly so filled that no separate hour was available to complete on that day the usual tribute of psalmody. Strictly speaking, Holy Saturday, like Good Friday, is "aliturgical", as belonging to the days when the Bridegroom was taken from us. Of this a memorial still remains in the fact that, apart from the one much anticipated Mass, the clergy on that day are not free either to celebrate or to receive Holy Communion.
Thank you for clearing that up Quis!
(03-27-2011, 06:16 PM)Petertherock Wrote: Thank you for clearing that up Quis!

(03-27-2011, 02:51 PM)spasiisochrani Wrote: If the Easter Vigil Mass begins at midnight as it's supposed to, it's a moot point.

Agreed.  The tradition is the Holy Saturday service begins before and actual Mass should begin at or just about Midnight.  But I think even this was changed pre-V2 and an anticipated Mass is allowed.  One of the very few anticipated Masses before V2, I might add.

I don't have time to check on the history of it, but maybe someone else will come along who knows the exact details of when, in 62, it was allowed to begin.  I think some Sedevacantist churches that use the older missal and calendar have a stricter requirement.

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