Is there Crypto-Orthodoxy among some Eastern Catholics?
(04-02-2011, 09:44 AM)CrusaderKing Wrote:
(04-01-2011, 04:48 PM)Resurrexi Wrote: Denial of the Holy Spirit's procession from both Father and Son,[b]of papal primacy of jurisdiction[b]

Many Easterners have changed their tune on this, albeit sublety. They no longer argue about Papal primacy, but Papal Supremacy. Regardless, they're still wrong.

You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.  Orthodox resist this because of the Catholic approach.  Like Pharisees, there will always be some Orthodox who will resist Catholic doctrine out of stubborn arrogance, but I think the majority of Orthodox wouldn't be so opposed to it if it was explained better on the Catholic side.  The Orthodox objection is that if the Pope is supreme and has immediate jurisdiction throughout the whole Church, then logically, the Pope is essentially the only bishop and every other bishop is merely an auxilliary.  If, however, it were explained to them to emphasize that the Church is one body and can only have one head, every family can have only one father, logically it makes sense that the Church on earth has one head just like every patriarchat, every metropolitanate and every diocese.  The Pope has to have some real jurisdiction over the Church, or else the Church isn't visibly one body, it couldn't be.  And if the Pope has some jurisdiction over the whole Church, it logically follows that his authority must be supreme and immediate, even if a holy and benevolent Pope would rarely exercise it so immediately.  This explanation doesn't weaken the Catholic argument, but at the same time makes it more palatable to the Orthodox.

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Re: Is there Crypto-Orthodoxy among some Eastern Catholics? - by Melkite - 04-02-2011, 10:54 AM

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