foreplay in the sexual act
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(04-13-2011, 12:56 PM)st.dominic_savio Wrote: Excuse me for this graphic posts but its a question I must ask. Reading Catholic Answers, I have learned that foreplay (i.e. oral sex) is permitted between husband and wife as long as the man finishes in the woman. Did the church allow this foreplay prior to Vatican II? Or is it a recent novelty? Isn't this a form of sodomy that cries for vengeance?

From my knowledge of moral theology, I would say that such foreplay *may* be considered permissible (never recommended) if it is truly intended as foreplay, and is analogous to kissing etc.  The problem with something like oral sex is that it is usually like anal sex -- very objectively demeaning, perverse, intended to arouse precisely because it is perverse / demeaning, and this is not what sex is about.

Thank God I am no one's spiritual director / moral advisor, but if this were a real stumbling block for someone I might say that oral sex could in this limited sense be permitted, but I would never never never cavalierly encourage it ... I just think it might be tolerable.

I do not think it falls under the category of sodomy that cries to Heaven for vengeance, which refers to the use of sexuality outside of the procreative end.

That all said, the moral theologians did not always agree and perhaps there were some who unilaterally condemned all oral sex, I don't know?
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