foreplay in the sexual act
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(04-14-2011, 06:32 PM)UnamSanctam Wrote:
(04-14-2011, 11:27 AM)Walty Wrote:
(04-14-2011, 01:42 AM)Dante Alighieri Wrote:
(04-13-2011, 09:49 PM)UnamSanctam Wrote: Why does it matter whether the seed is sprinkled on the floor (i.e. masturbation) or in a sterile vagina? In either case it is not for procreation, and a waste of seed that could be avoided. For example, a couple who has sex while the woman is pregnant would mean fertility is impossible at that time.

I'm curious about this as well.

Quis gave a good response here, but I might just add that, in laymen's terms, we just have to do our job.  That is acting naturally and morally in regards to sex.  We cannot discount that God performs miracles and can, as with Sarah, bring life even in a sterile woman.  He does not do this with masturbation or contraceptive sex because we are purposefully frustrating the ability for new life to emerge and are rejecting that possibility with our free will.  Intercourse, even while sterile, is open to children.

The events of Sarah and Elizabeth are miraculous, and extraordinary. I agree though, that even for an aged woman, or one whom doctors have said is sterile can surely by the grace of God, conceive. However, a pregnant woman is not the same. A pregnant woman cannot possibly get pregnant until the child conceived is brought forth. I am not questioning the power of God to open the sterile womb, but that is a rare occurrence. It is the issue of pregnancy that still seems unanswered.

In that case, the couple is so open to life that they are indeed pregnant at the moment.  It is not humanity's "fault" that the process of procreation to birth takes nine months.  That is just natural and how God has created us.  So, in that case, we may still have sex because we are not frustrating the life giving act of marriage in any way.  A husband and wife are merely doing what they do while God is in the process of creating that little baby.  All the other examples mentioned here show a contraceptive mentality in which what we do is to purposefully cut ourselves off from insemination.
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