Catholic Church in Britain shills for socialism
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Leading clerics oppose Cameron's socialism lite and favour straightforward Labour style socialism.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion...iling.html

"As we said in our discussion document, a government cannot simply cut expenditure, wash its hands of expenditure and expect that the slack will be taken up by greater voluntary activity."

Of course not, then non-governmental institutions like, say, the Catholic Church, would have to fill in the gap. 
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#2
Quote: "As we said in our discussion document, a government cannot simply cut expenditure, wash its hands of expenditure and expect that the slack will be taken up by greater voluntary activity." 

This is so twisted, the only thing I can think of to describe it is anti-Christ.  Heck, where does this man think deacons came from?

It is Tradition for the Church to take care of the poor and orphans.  As well as school the children.  The government should be a small, barely noticed institution taking care of common property.  Everywhere men now take for granted this Marxist Leninist notion that government should redistribute wealth, provide relief for the poor, run the pension system, run healthcare, and educate kids.  All Marxist anti-Catholic drivel.  Pope Leo XIII forbade the government to provide for the poor.

And by the way, the title should be modified.  Remove "in Britain" and put  "Everywhere".
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(04-17-2011, 11:15 AM)James02 Wrote:
Quote: "As we said in our discussion document, a government cannot simply cut expenditure, wash its hands of expenditure and expect that the slack will be taken up by greater voluntary activity." 

This is so twisted, the only thing I can think of to describe it is anti-Christ.  Heck, where does this man think deacons came from?

It is Tradition for the Church to take care of the poor and orphans.  As well as school the children.  The government should be a small, barely noticed institution taking care of common property.  Everywhere men now take for granted this Marxist Leninist notion that government should redistribute wealth, provide relief for the poor, run the pension system, run healthcare, and educate kids.  All Marxist anti-Catholic drivel.  Pope Leo XIII forbade the government to provide for the poor.

And by the way, the title should be modified.  Remove "in Britain" and put  "Everywhere".

True.  The Bishops and USCCB here are strenuously opposing the even timid and faltering steps taken by Republicans to restore fiscal sanity and reduce government social-welfare.

As a friend of mine pointed out, one wonders what purpose these churchmen think the Church has.  Long ago they stopped preaching the Gospel of redemption through the Precious Blood of Our Lord.  But apparently, they would have all charity and social service taken over by the government.  If the Church isn't even going to be a glorified social services organizer, what does it do?  What use would it have to anyone?
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#4
This guy is a monster.
Quote: At the moment the Big Society is lacking a cutting edge. It has no teeth."

"Devolving greater power to local authorities should not be used as a cloak for masking central cuts.

"It is not sufficient for the Government, in its localism programme, simply to step back from social need and say this is a local issue."

Quote: "It is a fundamental principle of social philosophy, fixed and unchangeable, that one should not withdraw from individuals and commit to the community what they can accomplish by their own enterprise and industry. So, too, it is an injustice and at the same time a grave evil and a disturbance of right order, to transfer to the larger and higher collectivity functions which can be performed and provided for by lesser and subordinate bodies.
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#5
Well, I wouldn't go that far.  The Church gives us Graces and is the only means to salvation.  Pretty important, no?

However, the Church should provide for the poor, and educate children.  The reason we have Catholic hospitals everywhere is because the Church used to take seriously caring for the poor.  Of course back then TOTAL taxes were only 4% of GDP, so local communities had money, and parishoners could donate a lot more, just look at some of the cathedrals and even regular churches built before say 1920.  Now total taxes are probably on the order of 30% of GDP.
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(04-17-2011, 11:33 AM)James02 Wrote: Well, I wouldn't go that far.  The Church gives us Graces and is the only means to salvation.  Pretty important, no?

I mean in the thinking of these churchmen.  They never speak of any supernatural function for the Church.  At the same time, they want a cradle-to-grave social welfare state.  It leaves a very small field of action for the Church.
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