Universae Ecclesiae released - full English text
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(05-13-2011, 04:44 PM)Bakuryokuso Wrote: I’m basing myself on many months of viewing Vetus’s comments on the Jews and I cannot read his heart any more than you can – God alone can – but on the whole I stand by my assessment that the comments themselves are hateful and racist. Quis created a subform – Judaism, Zionism, Other Religions, Cults & Spiritual Movements – to keep all those “Jewish” subjects in one place so they don’t drift all over the rest of the forum.

Why even bring up the Jews in a discussion on UE? It’s completely irrelevant. There is no logic behind it… and yet you’re saying I’m the one who’s illogical?

There are Trads who refuse to participate in FE because these sort of close-minded comments are given free reign. I defer to Quis in terms of running the site the way he sees fit, but if you think I’m gonna say nothing when Vetus spouts his ridiculousness, you’re fooling yourself.

When we allow nonsense like this, just bitter spite against the Holy Father, to crop up unchallenged on FE, then we’re just giving more reasons to otherwise well-meaning Catholics to write off Traditionalists (and, thus, Tradition) as un-Catholic gibberish. I think it needs to stop. Trads need to grow up and forget this black-and-white cold-hearted thinking we can be so prone to.

This!
(05-13-2011, 04:49 PM)Bakuryokuso Wrote:
(05-13-2011, 02:23 PM)st.dominic_savio Wrote: I would like to challenge you to point out where Vetus said anything that was not true.

If Pope Benedict "doesn't even believe that the Jews need to be converted" then he's a heretic. Do you think the Holy Father is a heretic? Where has the Pope ever contradicted this essential Biblical and Catholic teaching, that all must convert to be saved? In his recent book, he merely discussed that the hardness of the hearts of the Jews will make it such that, on the whole, the church's efforts of evangelize them will prove largely unfruitful.

But to state that “the head of the Church of Christ on earth believes that the Jews don’t need to convert” is a blatant attempt to drag his name thru the mud, and is completely inappropriate on a Catholic discussion board.

And this! Thanks, Bak. :)
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