Universae Ecclesiae released - full English text
(05-13-2011, 04:49 PM)Bakuryokuso Wrote:
(05-13-2011, 02:23 PM)st.dominic_savio Wrote:
(05-13-2011, 01:37 PM)Vetus Ordo Wrote: What else could you expect of a man who doesn't even believe that the Jews need to be converted?

I would like to challenge you to point out where Vetus said anything that was not true.

If Pope Benedict "doesn't even believe that the Jews need to be converted" then he's a heretic. Do you think the Holy Father is a heretic? Where has the Pope ever contradicted this essential Biblical and Catholic teaching, that all must convert to be saved? In his recent book, he merely discussed that the hardness of the hearts of the Jews will make it such that, on the whole, the church's efforts of evangelize them will prove largely unfruitful.

But to state that “the head of the Church of Christ on earth believes that the Jews don’t need to convert” is a blatant attempt to drag his name thru the mud, and is completely inappropriate on a Catholic discussion board.

Bak, I don't want to make things worse.  I really like you as a poster so I'm just trying to understand the situation.  I disagree but understand what you're saying about Vetus' comments about Pope Benedict, however, I've never seen Vetus call the Holy Father an outright heretic and, as far as I know, he's not a sede nor is he espousing that view here.  Secondly, it's obvious that you find Vetus' comments on Jews and Judaism offensive, however, I don't think it's fair to or charitable to publicly state that he is a racist or bigot.  This particular comment really had little to do with the Jews and was mostly about Pope Benedict.  The only implication was that they need Christ for their salvation, just as we all do.

Again, not trying to fan flames or anything, man.  Hopefully it doesn't come across that way.

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Re: Universae Ecclesiae released - full English text - by Walty - 05-13-2011, 06:02 PM

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