Universae Ecclesiae released - full English text
(05-14-2011, 01:55 AM)Joshua Wrote: Overall, Universae Ecclesiae, is painless and simply reiterates much of the same language of the Motu Proprio. To be honest I'm rather underwhelmed except for a couple of good sections and one very bad one. One good section is the surprising call for the instruction of Latin and the TLM in diocesan seminaries. While the language used to convey this "request" is hopelessly weak and devoid of any authoritative demand, the mere fact that our reigning Pope is even daring to call on dioceses to incorporate TLM and Latin training for their seminaries is a dramatic expression of the changing mood in the Church.

The other notable positive notion is the clarification of what a "qualified" Priest is. UE states:

UE Sec. 20 - A. Wrote:Every Catholic priest who is not impeded by Canon Law  is to be considered idoneus (“qualified”) for the celebration of the Holy Mass in the forma extraordinaria.

I've run into a few occasions where a Bishop has declined the permission for a Latin Mass to be said in a parish due to the lack of a "qualified" Priest. He'd go on to invent his own criteria for what he considers "qualified" which usually involves an exaggerated process of leaving town for training and becoming perfectly fluent in the Latin language. This clarification takes away this bit of ammunition from dissident Bishops.

However the one very bad section that I've yet to see anyone dedicate any attention or commentary on is the portion dealing with the conferral of the clerical state. UE states the following:

UE Sec. 30 Wrote:... consequently, in Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life which are under the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, one who has made solemn profession or who has been definitively incorporated into a clerical institute of apostolic life, becomes incardinated as a cleric in the institute or society upon ordination to the diaconate, in accordance with canon 266 § 2 of the Code of Canon Law.

I interpret this is saying that a man becomes an incardinated cleric upon the reception of the Diaconate, whereas a tonsured seminarian in an un-incardinated cleric.

Most will continue to interpret this (including Fr. Z) as saying that even when the minor orders are conferred (as they are with the ICKSP, FSSP, SSPX, etc.) the clerical state is not attained until the Diaconate. This interpretation is a gross distortion of sacramental realities. In addition to the 1962 Missale Romanum, the Motu Proprio allows the the Pontificale Romanum to be used among the TLM groups. It is the Pontificale that contains the rites of ordination for the Priesthood, the Major Orders and the Minor Orders among other things. Within the rite of Tonsure, it explicitly states that the clerical state is being conferred.

What are you getting at, Joshua? Well, here's the rub, folks: If someone believes that, even when the Minor Orders are conferred, the candidates do not receive the clerical state until the Diaconate then they would be forced to believe that the Church is allowing a liturgical rite to exist that contradicts itself. They are forced to believe that the rite of tonsure (which the Church allows to be used in full) which states that the clerical state is being conferred is in fact lying. In other words they believe that the Church allows a rite to exist that says God is doing something (conferring the clerical state) when, in reality, He really isn't. For anyone in the Church to make use of any liturgical rite that claims it is doing something when in act it isn't is committing the grave sin of sacrilege.

Has anyone else caught on to this ignored but very significant issue?


Your discussion of the possible sacrilege involved here is very disturbing and interesting. Have you discussed this with Father Z or any other clergy?


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Re: Universae Ecclesiae released - full English text - by Cetil - 05-14-2011, 07:08 AM

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