Bishop Williamson- Rotten Apples
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(05-15-2011, 12:58 AM)Meg Wrote: Me thinks that the good bishop doesn't get out much. He speaks of the rotten fruit of the "conciliar church," but when is the last time that he actually set foot in a "conciliar church?"

We have photos of him carrying a cross into St. Peter's in 2000.  

Quote: It was probably about 1976 or so, when he was ordained a priest by Archbishop Lefebvre. The information that he so confidently speaks of is that of a vicarious nature. It's all second-hand, from others whom he obviously trusts. I would challenge him to get out a little, and actually set foot in, and, *gasp* maybe even attend a "rotten" NO Mass, just to see for himself, rather than just take the word of others.

He's right for one thing.  Novus Ordos are rotten and I've seen a few at various Churches in recent years.  He also knows the texts of the Novus Ordo.  And he obviously has communication with Novus Ordo priests because in his 2005 interviews with Bernard Janzen, he was stating that "not every priest in the Novus Ordo is losing the faith."  

Quote: I've mentioned recently here that I've done a little experiment, and have attended NO/OF Masses in several U.S. states during the last year, and have been surprised that most of them have not been by any means "rotten."

Different standars of what constitutes "rotten" are being applied.  

Quote:  The last one I assisted at was yesterday. For the first time, I attended Mass at St. Peter's mission church on the Suquamish Indian reservation, near Seattle (Chief Seattle, a devout Catholic, is buried in a cemetery next to the church). The Mass was reverent, and the sermon excellent. The priest spoke of the need to stay true to the teachings of the Church, even if it means taking unpopular stands. He also said that we should show our faith in public, such as genuflecting when we have a meal in a restaurant. We sang Salve Regina at the end of Mass (in honor of Our Lady), and it was really cool that before Mass, the priest actually rang the old church bell, in the old-fashioned manner by pulling the rope, for about a full-minute.  A lovely Mass.

None of those traditions or acts of piety are intrinsic to the Mass.  They are the equivalent of icing, it can go on a cake or go on a shoe and it wil be just as sweet.
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Re: Bishop Williamson- Rotten Apples - by JayneK - 05-14-2011, 07:16 PM
Re: Bishop Williamson- Rotten Apples - by JayneK - 05-14-2011, 07:44 PM
Re: Bishop Williamson- Rotten Apples - by JayneK - 05-14-2011, 08:41 PM
Re: Bishop Williamson- Rotten Apples - by JayneK - 05-14-2011, 08:52 PM
Re: Bishop Williamson- Rotten Apples - by JayneK - 05-14-2011, 09:35 PM
Re: Bishop Williamson- Rotten Apples - by JayneK - 05-14-2011, 09:37 PM
Re: Bishop Williamson- Rotten Apples - by salus - 05-14-2011, 10:14 PM
Re: Bishop Williamson- Rotten Apples - by Meg - 05-15-2011, 12:58 AM
Re: Bishop Williamson- Rotten Apples - by PeterII - 05-15-2011, 02:02 AM
Re: Bishop Williamson- Rotten Apples - by JayneK - 05-15-2011, 07:50 AM
Re: Bishop Williamson- Rotten Apples - by Meg - 05-15-2011, 10:12 AM
Re: Bishop Williamson- Rotten Apples - by Gerard - 05-15-2011, 10:17 AM
Re: Bishop Williamson- Rotten Apples - by Gerard - 05-15-2011, 10:22 AM
Re: Bishop Williamson- Rotten Apples - by Meg - 05-15-2011, 10:26 AM
Re: Bishop Williamson- Rotten Apples - by Meg - 05-15-2011, 10:29 AM
Re: Bishop Williamson- Rotten Apples - by Meg - 05-15-2011, 10:38 AM
Re: Bishop Williamson- Rotten Apples - by Meg - 05-15-2011, 11:10 AM
Re: Bishop Williamson- Rotten Apples - by Meg - 05-15-2011, 11:13 AM
Re: Bishop Williamson- Rotten Apples - by Meg - 05-15-2011, 11:17 AM
Re: Bishop Williamson- Rotten Apples - by Meg - 05-15-2011, 11:51 AM
Re: Bishop Williamson- Rotten Apples - by Meg - 05-15-2011, 12:43 PM
Re: Bishop Williamson- Rotten Apples - by JayneK - 05-15-2011, 12:59 PM
Re: Bishop Williamson- Rotten Apples - by Justin - 05-15-2011, 07:22 PM
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