Gen. 3:15-Michael Voris on SHE will crush his head...
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http://www.realcatholictv.com/free/index...2011-05-23


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If we do not subscribe to Real Catholic TV that link that you posted does not take you to the video where Michael Voris talks about the serpent lying in wait for Mary's heel in Genesis 3:15.  I wouldn't mind watching the video if you can link directly to it please Magdalene?
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(05-24-2011, 08:37 AM)mikemac Wrote: If we do not subscribe to Real Catholic TV that link that you posted does not take you to the video where Michael Voris talks about the serpent lying in wait for Mary's heel in Genesis 3:15.  I wouldn't mind watching the video if you can link directly to it please Magdalene?

You can view it.  It's free - all you have to do is sign up.
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It's also on YouTube



There's also a very good, hour long episode of The One True Faith on this topic. I wish I could post it here, but I don't know how.
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I haven't been able to watch the video yet, but this topic has always interested me. From my understanding it can be either he or she as the Bishop Challoner's footnote in the DRV says:

[15] "She shall crush"... Ipsa, the woman; so divers of the fathers read this place, conformably to the Latin: others read it ipsum, viz., the seed. The sense is the same: for it is by her seed, Jesus Christ, that the woman crushes the serpent's head.

That being said, I also tend to think "she" is more accurate. From my understanding, the Hebrew as written is ambiguous--it can be translated as he, she, or they. Most Christian Bibles nowadays translate it as "he" thinking of Christ, but Jews actually translate it as "they," which seems to also convey the same truth.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsou...esis3.html

If we look at the rest of Scripture, it is never actually Christ crushing the head of the enemy, but someone else doing it by the Lord's power.

Two other women called blessed among all women and predicted to be praised by all generation, Jahel and Judith, both by the power of God strike at the head of the chief enemy.

Judges 5:24 Blessed among women be Jahel the wife of Haber the Cinite, and blessed be she in her tent. 25 He asked her water and she gave him milk, and offered him butter in a dish fit for princes. 26 She put her left hand to the nail, and her right hand to the workman's hammer, and she struck Sisara, seeking in his head a place for the wound, and strongly piercing through his temples.

Judith 13:17 Judith said: Praise ye the Lord our God, who hath not forsaken them that hope in him. 18 And by me his handmaid he hath fulfilled his mercy, which he promised to the house of Israel: and he hath killed the enemy of his people by my hand this night. 19 Then she brought forth the head of Holofernes out of the wallet, and shewed it them, saying: Behold the head of Holofernes the general of the army of the Assyrians, and behold his canopy, wherein he lay in his drunkenness, where the Lord our God slew him by the hand of a woman. 20 But as the same Lord liveth, his angel hath been my keeper both going hence, and abiding there, and returning from thence hither: and the Lord hath not suffered me his handmaid to be defiled, but hath brought me back to you without pollution of sin, rejoicing for his victory, for my escape, and for your deliverance. 21 Give all of you glory to him, because he is good, because his mercy endureth for ever. 22 And they all adored the Lord, and said to her: The Lord hath blessed thee by his power, because by thee he hath brought our enemies to nought. 23 And Ozias the prince of the people of Israel, said to her: Blessed art thou, O daughter, by the Lord the most high God, above all women upon the earth. 24 Blessed be the Lord who made heaven and earth, who hath directed thee to the cutting off the head of the prince of our enemies. 25 Because he hath so magnified thy name this day, that thy praise shall not depart out of the mouth of men who shall be mindful of the power of the Lord for ever, for that thou hast not spared thy life, by reason of the distress and tribulation of thy people, but hast prevented our ruin in the presence of our God. 26 And all the people said: So be it, so be it.

Likewise, St. Paul writing in Romans exhorts them to trample the serpent by the power of God. It's never Jesus Himself, He's always working through someone else.

Rom. 16:20 And the God of peace crush Satan under your feet speedily. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.

I think the she refers to both Mary and the Church (Mary being the image and a precursor of the Church.). Just as Mary has already trampled Satan under foot, so will the Church by the power of her Seed trample him.

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Perhaps the "she" refers to the Church which is often known as "The Bride of Christ"......

But the "he" would work as well because the Church is also known as "The Body of Christ".....

Although how both analogies can be applied has always confused me..
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(05-24-2011, 10:06 AM)alaric Wrote: Although how both analogies can be applied has always confused me..

I think they both are related since when the groom and bride marry, they become one flesh and therefore the wife is now the husband's own flesh:

Eph. 5:[25] Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himself up for it: [26] That he might sanctify it, cleansing it by the laver of water in the word of life: [27] That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle, or any; such thing; but that it should be holy, and without blemish. [28] So also ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife, loveth himself. [29] For no man ever hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, as also Christ doth the church: [30] Because we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. [31] For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and they shall be two in one flesh. [32] This is a great sacrament; but I speak in Christ and in the church.
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(05-24-2011, 09:38 AM)ResiduumRevertetur Wrote: It's also on YouTube



There's also a very good, hour long episode of The One True Faith on this topic. I wish I could post it here, but I don't know how.

Thanks.  Good video.  I can't imagine Genesis 3:15 reading any different than how the Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible has it.  Particularly seeing that Mary appeared to St. Catherine Laboure in 1830 requesting that she “Have a medal struck upon this model. Those who wear it will receive great graces, especially if they wear it around the neck.”  The medal is the Miraculous Medal that shows the serpent lying in wait for her heel.
Association of the Miraculous Medal
http://www.amm.org/medal.asp

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You can also view the Vortex daily on You Tube. This segment is found at
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