Augustine, Galileo and natural science
(06-20-2011, 12:39 AM)Rosarium Wrote:
(06-19-2011, 11:36 PM)Alabama Trad Wrote: An important topic.

The Galileo affair is probably the biggest black eye that the Church has suffered over the centuries, not because she was proven to be fallible, but because the incident has served to discredit the Catholic Church in the eyes of many moderns.

What's the lesson of the Galileo affair?
This is false. You do not know what rubbish Galileo was teaching.

Quote:When the literalistic (i.e. most simplistic) reading of a Scriptural text SEEMS to contradict widely held scientific or natural knowledge in any field of study, our duty is not to superimpose the literalistic text on the widely held belief in an attempt to stifle debate. This necessarily does two things,
a. It closes our minds to possible natural truths, of which God is the author, just as he's the author of supernatural truths,
b. It scandalizes nonbelievers, who have good reasons for certain natural beliefs, and throw the baby out with the bathwater, refusing to accept anything Christians say, even on faith.

But Galileo was wrong.

He taught that the orbits were perfect circles. Johannes Kepler used science and observations to get the truth. The orbits were ellipses. Galileo rejected the scientific works of Kepler to stick with some misguided "perfect circle" idea. Galileo was going backwards.

Kepler did not have issues with the Church like Galileo did.

Ignorance of the affair is the cause for the "scandal". Galileo's work only gets him praise now, because the work he did during house arrest was good. The work before that was rubbish.

Quote:Rather, we ought to accept the most likely natural theory and seek ways of understanding the Scriptural text in light of it. Augustine was wonderful here. He notes that ten people can have ten different insights into a Scriptural text (say, the formlessness of matter in the beginning) and all ten people may have something valuable to offer.

And we can work on understanding the facts, instead of common knowledge without any research into facts.

Thank you, Rosarium, for pointing out some of the flaws in Galileo's thesis.

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Re: Augustine, Galileo and natural science - by wulfrano - 06-20-2011, 03:07 AM

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