Can we extricate ourselves from Molinism?
And then how is free will anything other than an illusion if we are going to end up in Heaven or Hell according to whether or not God decides to give us efficacious grace?  It would seem that free will is a sham, because those who do not receive efficacious grace, not matter how much they love and desire to be with God, can't.  They will burn.

If free will is the instrument by which we accept or reject God, then what good is sufficient grace?  If it can't help us to Heaven, why would we want to have anything to do with it?  On the other hand, if we accept it (because its from God) and live our life accordingly, but were never provided efficacious grace, we still don't get to heaven.

That doesn't make any sense to me.  Maybe I'm not understanding it. 
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Go thy ways, old Jack;
die when thou wilt, if manhood, good manhood, be
not forgot upon the face of the earth, then am I a
shotten herring. There live not three good men
unhanged in England; and one of them is fat and
grows old: God help the while! a bad world, I say.
I would I were a weaver; I could sing psalms or any
thing. A plague of all cowards, I say still.

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Re: Can we extricate ourselves from Molinism? - by Mithrandylan - 07-20-2011, 04:15 PM

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