08-01-2011, 03:42 AM
(08-01-2011, 03:07 AM)Gregory I Wrote: Can you will it without him willing it for you first?
Can you approach GOd BEFORE he gives you the grace to turn to him?
People often ignore, on all sides of these debates, that God is outside of time..."before" and similar concepts don't always mean the same as typical conceptions.