The SSPX Talks With Rome Are Not a Failure
(07-27-2011, 04:29 PM)Aenigmata in Tenebris Wrote:
(07-27-2011, 04:20 PM)Augstine Baker Wrote:
(07-27-2011, 04:18 PM)Aenigmata in Tenebris Wrote:
(07-27-2011, 04:15 PM)ggreg Wrote:
(07-27-2011, 04:01 PM)Aenigmata in Tenebris Wrote:
(07-27-2011, 03:51 PM)ggreg Wrote: How could one judge the Church to be in error, if objectively that was so?

If one could not ever have the authority to judge, then how could the Church ever be proven to be in error?

That's just it - one cannot ever judge the Church to be in error objectively, because the Church cannot error.

So how is it different than a cult then, where the cult leader says I am God even though the building is burning and your children are on fire?

Non Catholics must laugh at this sort of statement in light of the abuse scandals of the last few years.

If there is ever a position where "one cannot ever judge", even when prima facie evidence is slapping you in the face, then human reason is useless.  Nobody here can accuse a cult member of foolishness when ultimately they would suspend their reason for the sake of their faith.  The cult member is convinced that the cult leader is god.

You misinterpreted my point. If the building is burning down around you and children are screaming, then you can't be in the true Church. Make that judgement by all means. Just know that you are not judging the true Church - you are judging a facsimile of her.

Oh--  a Sede...ok, never mind.

Pretty quick to through labels around aren't you. You know jack about me, and clearly jump to conclusions (not for the first time).

You are in denial. What's your answer to ggreg, O historically and doctrinally informed and omnipotent one?

It saves time.  Your train of argument is sedevacantist, as soon as you made that point about the building being on fire then you need to get out, it was easy to jump to that conclusion, because I've heard that rhetoric before.

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Re: The SSPX Talks With Rome Are Not a Failure - by Augstine Baker - 07-27-2011, 04:38 PM

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