Seven million died in the 'forgotten' holocaust
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(09-10-2011, 12:44 PM)Roger the Shrubber Wrote: All this stuff really started with the Tricolore.

Amen!
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(09-10-2011, 01:56 AM)tradne4163 Wrote: Interestingly enough, I do know of this... thanks to Glenn Beck. He ran a documentary on Socialism and it's ilk when he was still on TV. I think it was on Fox News, but I could be wrong. I'll track down the name and get back to you.

Yes, to his credit he did indeed cover the mass starvation of Holdomor. However, watching him apologize to Holocuast Survivors™, by basically groveling before them for covering this atrocity was kind of sick. I believe he said something like, "this program is not in anyway aimed at detracting from the Holocaust against the Jews during WWII".

There have been many genocides throughout history. Russia, Eastern Europe, China, Cambodia, just in the last century. How many died civilian and armed combatants during WWII? Some 50 to 60 million? Even if we accept the inflated figure of 6 million Jews, that means 44 to 54 million gentiles died between 1939 and 1945. The vast majority of them Christians. 
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And of course Ireland.  So close yet for most so far away and ignored.. And of course the complete vanquishing of many many native American tribes . Both in Canada and the united states. Ireland was thoroughly raped, pillaged  and depopulated both by forced hunger and mass murder.
Anyway
just keeping it real
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(09-10-2011, 12:44 PM)Roger the Shrubber Wrote:
(09-10-2011, 03:17 AM)Scipio_a Wrote: The germans ubder Hitler murdered 6 to 7 million people, the Russians under Stalin murdered 40 million....the Chinese in the "Cultural Revolution"....murdered 100 million people..what do all three have in common.....socialism of one sort or another....


A Prof that bj might have known used to like to break that one out in a couple of his classes...He was a Germanophile like Alaric without the bad parts....That is he used top say..."You know the crowd down at the Greyhound bus station?....That's the crowd that came to power in Germany in the 1930s"


so true

Let's not forget that they were also some of the first officially atheist states in history.

All this stuff really started with the Tricolore.

no the French nastieness was not the start of this...you need to listen to Billy Joel a little better....but the Frenchies did their share for sure
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(09-10-2011, 02:00 AM)tradne4163 Wrote: Got it! The documentary was called "The Revolutionary Holocaust: Live Free or Die." You could probably find it on Youtube.

He got away with using the "H" word applied to gentile victims?  Or was that why he lost his job?  (Maybe not the reason given, but the real reason?)

We must never forget…

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Let's not forget the genocide by the US
Hiroshima and Nagasaki in two days.

Date August 6 and 9, 1945
Location Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan

And of course the figures are deflated, they about 200,000 casualties for both cities.


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Call it whatever you want, this was genocide. (The ends do not justify the means.)
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a genocide? so the firebombings and carpet bombings on germany must of been a genocide too considering more people parished.
terms and meaning matter.
care to post why why the bombs that hit japan are a genocide but what hit germany wasn't?
what is a genocide? is like an asshole and all peoples have one? is it my genocide can beat your genocide to there!!!!!!
ill wait
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(09-11-2011, 01:15 PM)devotedknuckles Wrote: a genocide? so the firebombings and carpet bombings on germany must of been a genocide too considering more people parished.
terms and meaning matter.
care to post why why the bombs that hit japan are a genocide but what hit germany wasn't?
what is a genocide? is like an asshole and all peoples have one? is it my genocide can beat your genocide to there!!!!!!
ill wait

DK, genocide is a word like racism or homphobia. It has no real meaning except that which the person using it wants it to have. It should mean the destruction, attempted or completed, of an entire people, culture or ethnic group. The so-called 'Holocaust', the Holodomor and the jihadist destruction of the Armenian Christians would all qualify, but the use of the term to describe the A-bomb in Japan (or the fire bombing of Dresden, which had by far less military value than the the A-bomb use) is laughable and not worth serious consideration.
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Although with Christianity legalized and the Kakure Kirishitan coming out of hiding, Nagasaki regained its earlier role as a center for Roman Catholicism in Japan.
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(09-11-2011, 08:29 PM)mikemac Wrote: Although with Christianity legalized and the Kakure Kirishitan coming out of hiding, Nagasaki regained its earlier role as a center for Roman Catholicism in Japan.

One of the major reasons that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were  chosen as targets is that they were virtually the only cities in Japan still left standing. The US wanted the effect of the bomb to be very clear. They waited 3 days to bomb Nagasaki in the hopes the Japanese would surrender in the face of such terror (of course, the Japanese didn't know the US had only two bombs at that point). The reason that these two cities were relatively unscathed? The US had deliberately not bombed the two centres of Christianity in the Home Islands.
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