Tornielli: “Peace” agreement reached between Vatican and Lefebvrians
(09-16-2011, 02:09 PM)Jesse Wrote:
(09-16-2011, 01:30 PM)Stubborn Wrote: That begs the question.......why would anyone believe any thing that the NO taught?

Stubborn, the issue is not as clear-cut for the vast majority of people as it appears to be for you.  You show great arrogance in looking down on people who are sincerely trying to be faithful Catholics, insinuating that they are somehow stupid for trying to follow the visible Church.  This is a seriously confusing time; that's why it is a crisis.  Please don't act like you are better and smarter than those who with good faith and sincerity are trying to do the right thing.  I find it hard to imagine Christ casting someone into hell because they sincerely tried to follow the Pope and the Magisterium in a time of crisis.  It is a CRISIS, and a terrible one at that, when the Church herself becomes an obstacle to sanctity.  But we cannot fault well-intentioned faithful Catholics who are simply trying to do what the Church has taught:  follow the Pope and the Magisterium.  They may be wrong, but we shouldn't insinuate that they are stupid or faithless.  In the end, Christ may well have more mercy on them for trying to do the right thing and remaining humble than for those who put themselves above others.


I assure you that I have/had no intention of making myself seem smarter and making other folks seem stupid. Sorry to come across that way - but at the same time, this is a TRADITIONAL CATHOLIC Forum. And using the logic of the last few posts, I am innocent due to my own lack of knowing that I came across that way - so please accept my acknowledgement as a positive sign that I do not mean to come across that way from now on please.

If the NO never existed, this would simply be a Catholic Forum. Whoever comes here trying to say the NO is valid, licit, wonderful or any other such bs is going to hear what they do not want to hear. They have ears to hear - let them hear.

I've been around and lived my whole life as a trad - and trads do not participate with the modernists under the false presumption that the NOM enjoys the protection of the Church's Indefectibility  as I posted elsewhere.

And I do get angry when the same posters who think they can serve God and Mammon call themselves "Trads". If I cannot attend the NO because of what it is, then the same goes for the rest of you. And I know that I cannot attend the evil thing under any circumstances and that fact has caused me it's share of suffering in my life - but things sure could have been much simpler if I coulda just said "well, the pope says it" or some other such bs.

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Re: Tornielli: “Peace” agreement reached between Vatican and Lefebvrians - by Stubborn - 09-16-2011, 02:54 PM

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