Tornielli: “Peace” agreement reached between Vatican and Lefebvrians
(09-23-2011, 03:55 PM)Someone1776 Wrote: I actually had someone at my church the other day tell me that the focus on the TLM was a waste of time because despite the expansion of the TLM these past few years the Church hasn't gotten better.  I think this is a very sad statement.  It's like saying what did praying the rosary ever do.  The TLM is not a silver bullet and the NO isn't the cause of all the problems in the church.  But, one can't get around the fact that the NO isn't helping, and is probably making things worse.  The NO doesn't deny Catholic theology, but it does significantly downplay many parts of theology that were front and center in the old mass. The Virgin Mary, the saints, the trinity, man's sinful nature, and transubstantiation are all things that get downplayed in the new mass in favor of a focus on community.  Nothing wrong with community, but it is problem the emphasis on community is so great that many Catholics don't believe the Virgin was ever virgin, don't understand the basics of the trinity, don't understand why confession is important and what a mortal sin is, and don't believe in transubstantiation.  Maybe we would be in the same boat if the TLM had stayed, but at least you couldn't fault the mass for not trying to educate people in the faith. 

The NO is a Catholic mass (perhaps by the skin of it's teeth), but we can do so so so much better than that. 

I think this is a very good analysis.  I agree that the NO does not present Catholic theology as well as the TLM does.  I wonder, though, if the superior theology of the TLM would really do much make up for the abysmal state of Catholic education.  At any rate, improving liturgy is one of the needs of the Church and increased access to the TLM will help with that.  This is one reason (going back to the original topic) the regularization of the SSPX would be such a good thing.  It will allow more people to attend the TLM.


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Re: Tornielli: “Peace” agreement reached between Vatican and Lefebvrians - by JayneK - 09-23-2011, 06:16 PM

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