Pope Benedict is the last 2 Pope til end of the world, Prophecy of St Malachy
(09-17-2011, 01:56 PM)NOtard Wrote: The rock concert derailment is as good as any, but I just wanted to add my comments on the original topic.

In Acts 1:7-8, as Jesus was about to be taken up to heaven, the disciples were asking, more or less, for information on what was going to happen. And Jesus's answer, very paraphrased, was "it's none of your business. But I've given you a job to do, so go do it."

But that applies to all of us, all the time. The Second Coming might happen this afternoon, maybe even before I finish typing this post, or it might not be for another hundred thousand years. We don't know when, and we've been told we won't know when, but we've been told to always be ready. And, in fact, whenever the Final Judgement is going to be, I know that my personal meeting with the Judge will certainly take place within less than 100 years, and maybe even this afternoon or before I finish typing this.

So, rather than speculating about what I've been told I SHOULDN'T speculate about, I should go about my duties, as if the Lord might come and call for an accounting at any time, unexpectedly, AS HE SAID HE WOULD. Fulfilling my duties, avoiding mortal sin, being prepared - these are the things I need to concentrate on.

This. I don't understand why so many Christians like predicting the end of the world when both Christ and Saint Peter said no one knows when it's going to happen.

I am glad Catholicism got predicting the end of the world largely out of its system in the first century. 
(09-17-2011, 11:16 AM)sky1 Wrote: Friends,

I have to tell you, I am shocked when I read the Prophecy of St Malachy on 112 popes who reigned from his time until our time.

According to his prophecy, Pope Benedict is the last 2 Pope till the "last last" pope, when rome will be destroyed and end of the world, Christ come and judge the world.


Read them yourself

My suggestion, start reading the lives of the saints and books written by the saints, and reform your life.

Go to confession frequently, at least monthly.

The books, which has changed my life, really. Reading the lives of the saints and saints books are very different from our unreformed life. And will bring about good.


My recommended book would be "Preparation for death" by St Alphonsus Liguori.

Most of the writings of the saints availabe from tanbooks are available for free at the site because they are in public domain.

The saints do not write books for money..... Jesus mercy!

Because saints do not seek money, the books are in public domain, so everyone is free to distribute them without charge.

USE the opportunities. Seize it.

Many saints become saints by reading the lives and works of the saints, they are well read. Such as St Alphonsus Liguori, St Anthony Mary Claret, St Ignatius of Loyola.

Why not you?
After all, we are all called to be saints

God Bless

St Alphonus prep for death should be must reading for all. Agreed 100%. I read it and its a eye opener for sure.
(09-17-2011, 11:55 AM)City Smurf Wrote: If it happens, it happens.  Until it does I'm just going to stick with my rosary..

(09-17-2011, 11:23 AM)dan hunter Wrote: The Prophecy of Malachi is as much Church Teaching as my 8th grade Nun teacher telling us that "Heaven is like a big rock concert".

There are many inaccuracies in the Prophecy of Malachi.

Oh please!  How foolish!  Heaven is a half-pipe not a rock-concert!


(09-17-2011, 11:55 AM)City Smurf Wrote: If it happens, it happens.  Until it does I'm just going to stick with my rosary..

Wise approach, along with staying close to the Sacraments, obviously.

The end is going to come soon enough for all of us.
I concur with all. The prophecies have been tampered with while lost in the Vatican. Their caretakers took it upon themselves to make them more "clear". The ones which have been reworked are obvious as the style of writing is completely different. Yet, the remainder after their re-discovery are enticingly accurate. Personally I think they are right. Pope Benedict XVI is the olive, and the next will be Peter the Roman, so called because he will not be in Rome.  By the by I don't think it signifies the end of time, just the end of this time. It fits nicely into the Three days of Darkness where Peter and Paul come to earth again and choose the next Pope. I believe that Cardinal Spellman hired a yacht to sail the tiber during the conclave before the election of Pope Jhn XXIII. That pope was to be a shepherd and a sailor. Pope John XXIII came from Venice.

A small aside, the Fathers of the Church thought that the end times and the coming of the anti Christ was all one event.  Since Fatima, we now know that the end times consist of a chastisement, a promised period of peace, and then the coming of the anti Christ.
I agree...I just wish we knew how long the period of peace will be,,,, Obviously won';t occur until after WW 3?
The Catholic encyclopedia says this about the prophecies of St. Malachy.  Personally I think Pope Benedict is the Gloria olivæ too.

Quote:Prophecies of St. Malachy

Concerning Ireland

This prophecy, which is distinct from the prophecies attributed to St. Malachy concerning the popes, is to the effect that his beloved native isle would undergo at the hands of England oppression, persecution, and calamities of every kind, during a week of centuries; but that she would preserve her fidelity to God and to His Church amidst all her trials. At the end of seven centuries she would be delivered from her oppressors (or oppressions), who in their turn would be subjected to dreadful chastisements, and Catholic Ireland would be instrumental in bringing back the British nation to that Divine Faith which Protestant England had, during three hundred years, so rudely endeavoured to wrest from her. This prophecy is said to have been copied by the learned Dom Mabillon from an ancient manuscript preserved at Clairvaux, and transmitted by him to the martyred successor of Oliver Plunkett.

Concerning the Popes

The most famous and best known prophecies about the popes are those attributed to St. Malachy. In 1139 he went to Rome to give an account of the affairs of his diocese to the pope, Innocent II, who promised him two palliums for the metropolitan Sees of Armagh and Cashel. While at Rome, he received (according to the Abbé Cucherat) the strange vision of the future wherein was unfolded before his mind the long list of illustrious pontiffs who were to rule the Church until the end of time. The same author tells us that St. Malachy gave his manuscript to Innocent II to console him in the midst of his tribulations, and that the document remained unknown in the Roman Archives until its discovery in 1590 (Cucherat, "Proph. de la succession des papes", ch. xv). They were first published by Arnold de Wyon, and ever since there has been much discussion as to whether they are genuine predictions of St. Malachy or forgeries. The silence of 400 years on the part of so many learned authors who had written about the popes, and the silence of St. Bernard especially, who wrote the "Life of St. Malachy", is a strong argument against their authenticity, but it is not conclusive if we adopt Cucherat's theory that they were hidden in the Archives during those 400 years.

These short prophetical announcements, in number 112, indicate some noticeable trait of all future popes from Celestine II, who was elected in the year 1143, until the end of the world. They are enunciated under mystical titles. Those who have undertaken to interpret and explain these symbolical prophecies have succeeded in discovering some trait, allusion, point, or similitude in their application to the individual popes, either as to their country, their name, their coat of arms or insignia, their birth-place, their talent or learning, the title of their cardinalate, the dignities which they held etc. For example, the prophecy concerning Urban VIII is Lilium et Rosa (the lily and the rose); he was a native of Florence and on the arms of Florence figured a fleur-de-lis; he had three bees emblazoned on his escutcheon, and the bees gather honey from the lilies and roses. Again, the name accords often with some remarkable and rare circumstance in the pope's career; thus Peregrinus apostolicus (pilgrim pope), which designates Pius VI, appears to be verified by his journey when pope into Germany, by his long career as pope, and by his expatriation from Rome at the end of his pontificate. Those who have lived and followed the course of events in an intelligent manner during the pontificates of Pius IX, Leo XIII, and Pius X cannot fail to be impressed with the titles given to each by the prophecies of St. Malachy and their wonderful appropriateness: Crux de Cruce (Cross from a Cross) Pius IX; Lumen in caelo (Light in the Sky) Leo XIII; Ignis ardens (Burning Fire) Pius X. There is something more than coincidence in the designations given to these three popes so many hundred years before their time. We need not have recourse either to the family names, armorial bearings or cardinalatial titles, to see the fitness of their designations as given in the prophecies. The afflictions and crosses of Pius IX were more than fell to the lot of his predecessors; and the more aggravating of these crosses were brought on by the House of Savoy whose emblem was a cross. Leo XIII was a veritable luminary of the papacy. The present pope is truly a burning fire of zeal for the restoration of all things to Christ.

The last of these prophecies concerns the end of the world and is as follows: "In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Peter the Roman, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations, after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End." It has been noticed concerning Petrus Romanus, who according to St. Malachy's list is to be the last pope, that the prophecy does not say that no popes will intervene between him and his predecessor designated Gloria olivæ. It merely says that he is to be the last, so that we may suppose as many popes as we please before "Peter the Roman". Cornelius a Lapide refers to this prophecy in his commentary "On the Gospel of St. John" (C. xvi) and "On the Apocalypse" (cc. xvii-xx), and he endeavours to calculate according to it the remaining years of time.
" Cardinal Spellman hired a yacht to sail the tiber "

If true, he was lucky that ridiculousness no longer killed anyone since long. Otherwise  he would have died on the spot.
From Mikemac's quote from the Catholic Encyclopedia, highlighted for emphasis:

Quote:It has been noticed concerning Petrus Romanus, who according to St. Malachy's list is to be the last pope, that the prophecy does not say that no popes will intervene between him and his predecessor designated Gloria olivæ. It merely says that he is to be the last, so that we may suppose as many popes as we please before "Peter the Roman".

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