It's Ember Wenesday: Don't Eat Meat or More Than One Full Meal!
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(09-20-2011, 10:58 PM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 10:48 PM)Adam_Michael Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 10:43 PM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 10:37 PM)Adam_Michael Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 10:35 PM)NOtard Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 10:12 PM)Someone1776 Wrote: Ember Days are still part of the NO, but like everything with the NO they are optional and few people pick the right right options. 

I didn't know that. I had never heard of Ember Days before coming to FE. Do you have a reference for that?

Here. I hope this helps. I am still confused and need help.

http://fisheaters.com/emberdays.html

Here is a second article: http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2011/09....html#more

What specific questions do you have?

This all sounds very pagan like.

http://catholicism.about.com/od/holydays...r_Days.htm

Illustrate to me how this is not paganistic.

There are many practices in the Church which originated among Pagans but which the Church Christianized.  For example the Feast of All Saints was established to commemorate the re-dedication of the Pantheon (the Temple of All the Gods) into the Church of St. Mary and all the Martyrs.  Christmas probably began as a way to Christianize the Roman festival of the winter solstice.  The office of supreme pontiff was founded in 720 B.C. by second king of Rome! 

Ember Days are not pagan. They are penitential days that mark the changing of the seasons and remember the day Christ was betrayed (Wednesday), died (Friday), and buried (Saturday). 

Sanctify the year to Christ? Okay. I am following. This is new to me. I need to wrap my head around this one. I will pray about it and ask for faith.
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#22
(09-20-2011, 10:23 PM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 10:23 PM)Albino_Luciani Wrote: "Don't eat meat or the modernists win."

Is chicken meat?

Yes. 

Not in Spain. I lived there for a semester and my roommate was a vegetarian. Our host mom would always say "don't worry, it's not meat--it's chicken" when she made a chicken dish for us.
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#23
(09-20-2011, 11:56 PM)Lydia Grace Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 10:23 PM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 10:23 PM)Albino_Luciani Wrote: "Don't eat meat or the modernists win."

Is chicken meat?

Yes. 

Not in Spain. I lived there for a semester and my roommate was a vegetarian. Our host mom would always say "don't worry, it's not meat--it's chicken" when she made a chicken dish for us.

Do you have some pre-20th century Catholic source that says chicken is not meat? 
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#24
(09-21-2011, 12:10 AM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 11:56 PM)Lydia Grace Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 10:23 PM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 10:23 PM)Albino_Luciani Wrote: "Don't eat meat or the modernists win."

Is chicken meat?

Yes. 

Not in Spain. I lived there for a semester and my roommate was a vegetarian. Our host mom would always say "don't worry, it's not meat--it's chicken" when she made a chicken dish for us.

Do you have some pre-20th century Catholic source that says chicken is not meat? 

Nope, because I find things on the internet like a good lazy American.
http://powertochange.com/culture/chickennotmeat/
That's enjoyable to read if nothing else ;)
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#25
(09-21-2011, 12:18 AM)Lydia Grace Wrote:
(09-21-2011, 12:10 AM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 11:56 PM)Lydia Grace Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 10:23 PM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 10:23 PM)Albino_Luciani Wrote: "Don't eat meat or the modernists win."

Is chicken meat?

Yes. 

Not in Spain. I lived there for a semester and my roommate was a vegetarian. Our host mom would always say "don't worry, it's not meat--it's chicken" when she made a chicken dish for us.

Do you have some pre-20th century Catholic source that says chicken is not meat? 

Nope, because I find things on the internet like a good lazy American.
http://powertochange.com/culture/chickennotmeat/
That's enjoyable to read if nothing else ;)

That looks like a site run by someone who attends a Lifeteen Mass...

My 1888 missal says chicken is meat. Fish is allowed though. 
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#26
(09-21-2011, 12:19 AM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(09-21-2011, 12:18 AM)Lydia Grace Wrote:
(09-21-2011, 12:10 AM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 11:56 PM)Lydia Grace Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 10:23 PM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 10:23 PM)Albino_Luciani Wrote: "Don't eat meat or the modernists win."

Is chicken meat?

Yes. 

Not in Spain. I lived there for a semester and my roommate was a vegetarian. Our host mom would always say "don't worry, it's not meat--it's chicken" when she made a chicken dish for us.

Do you have some pre-20th century Catholic source that says chicken is not meat? 

Nope, because I find things on the internet like a good lazy American.
http://powertochange.com/culture/chickennotmeat/
That's enjoyable to read if nothing else ;)

That looks like a site run by someone who attends a Lifeteen Mass...

My 1888 missal says chicken is meat. Fish is allowed though. 

It's also not considered meat in Mexico. My mom lived there for a while and they would make chicken on meat-less days because it wasn't meat. Maybe it's a Spanish thing.
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#27
(09-21-2011, 12:21 AM)Lydia Grace Wrote:
(09-21-2011, 12:19 AM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(09-21-2011, 12:18 AM)Lydia Grace Wrote:
(09-21-2011, 12:10 AM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 11:56 PM)Lydia Grace Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 10:23 PM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 10:23 PM)Albino_Luciani Wrote: "Don't eat meat or the modernists win."

Is chicken meat?

Yes. 

Not in Spain. I lived there for a semester and my roommate was a vegetarian. Our host mom would always say "don't worry, it's not meat--it's chicken" when she made a chicken dish for us.

Do you have some pre-20th century Catholic source that says chicken is not meat? 

Nope, because I find things on the internet like a good lazy American.
http://powertochange.com/culture/chickennotmeat/
That's enjoyable to read if nothing else ;)

That looks like a site run by someone who attends a Lifeteen Mass...

My 1888 missal says chicken is meat. Fish is allowed though. 

It's also not considered meat in Mexico. My mom lived there for a while and they would make chicken on meat-less days because it wasn't meat. Maybe it's a Spanish thing.

Yes, I have heard the argument.  The Catholic Church has considered chicken to be meat for 20 centuries.  Stop looking for loopholes!
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#28
(09-21-2011, 12:22 AM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(09-21-2011, 12:21 AM)Lydia Grace Wrote:
(09-21-2011, 12:19 AM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(09-21-2011, 12:18 AM)Lydia Grace Wrote:
(09-21-2011, 12:10 AM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 11:56 PM)Lydia Grace Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 10:23 PM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 10:23 PM)Albino_Luciani Wrote: "Don't eat meat or the modernists win."

Is chicken meat?

Yes. 

Not in Spain. I lived there for a semester and my roommate was a vegetarian. Our host mom would always say "don't worry, it's not meat--it's chicken" when she made a chicken dish for us.

Do you have some pre-20th century Catholic source that says chicken is not meat? 

Nope, because I find things on the internet like a good lazy American.
http://powertochange.com/culture/chickennotmeat/
That's enjoyable to read if nothing else ;)

That looks like a site run by someone who attends a Lifeteen Mass...

My 1888 missal says chicken is meat. Fish is allowed though. 

It's also not considered meat in Mexico. My mom lived there for a while and they would make chicken on meat-less days because it wasn't meat. Maybe it's a Spanish thing.

Yes, I have heard the argument.  The Catholic Church has considered chicken to be meat for 20 centuries.  Stop looking for loopholes!

I'm Mexican.
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#29
(09-21-2011, 12:22 AM)Lydia Grace Wrote:
(09-21-2011, 12:22 AM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(09-21-2011, 12:21 AM)Lydia Grace Wrote:
(09-21-2011, 12:19 AM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(09-21-2011, 12:18 AM)Lydia Grace Wrote:
(09-21-2011, 12:10 AM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 11:56 PM)Lydia Grace Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 10:23 PM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(09-20-2011, 10:23 PM)Albino_Luciani Wrote: "Don't eat meat or the modernists win."

Is chicken meat?

Yes. 

Not in Spain. I lived there for a semester and my roommate was a vegetarian. Our host mom would always say "don't worry, it's not meat--it's chicken" when she made a chicken dish for us.

Do you have some pre-20th century Catholic source that says chicken is not meat? 

Nope, because I find things on the internet like a good lazy American.
http://powertochange.com/culture/chickennotmeat/
That's enjoyable to read if nothing else ;)

That looks like a site run by someone who attends a Lifeteen Mass...

My 1888 missal says chicken is meat. Fish is allowed though. 

It's also not considered meat in Mexico. My mom lived there for a while and they would make chicken on meat-less days because it wasn't meat. Maybe it's a Spanish thing.

Yes, I have heard the argument.  The Catholic Church has considered chicken to be meat for 20 centuries.  Stop looking for loopholes!


I'm Mexican.

I am Colombian. ¿Quieres una galleta?
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#30
(09-21-2011, 12:22 AM)Lydia Grace Wrote: I'm Mexican.

This is news to me.
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