10-02-2011, 10:42 PM
(10-02-2011, 06:58 PM)Vetus Ordo Wrote:No it is obvious Jesus wants good Popes, but even Popes have freewill.(10-02-2011, 05:30 PM)paul11b Wrote: I think that it is Jesus' Church and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it. The Church may be going through a rough spot now but I think that ultimately it is Jesus' Church and he won't let it fail. He wouldn't let a Pope be elected by man, even if it were a "human conspiracy" it's Jesus' Church so he still gets the Pope he wants.
So Jesus wants bad popes, adulterous popes, heretical popes?
Judging by the history of the papacy, there have been a few.
Bad Popes are not proof that the Holy Ghost does not inspire the college of cardinals to chose a particular Pope.