Prevent traditional style Church buildings from being shut down in Michigan
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I like Our Lady Of Czestochowa.  It looks beautiful.  It may not be gothic or European, but for a suburban American parish, it looks great.  Better than the school like buildings on the list of parishes the original Facebook author suggested should be picked to close.
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#12
(10-28-2011, 06:59 PM)AllWise Wrote:
(10-28-2011, 03:35 PM)DrBombay Wrote: What I would rather see is that the Archdiocese pledge to preserve as many of the interior items as possible.  Such as stained glass windows, statues, High Altars and side altars, tabernacles, pews, stations, etc..  While some buildings themselves, or in churches this age probably most if not all, are beautiful, it would be impossible to keep them all open if they aren't financially viable.  I'd be happy if they just saved all the treasures inside and spread them around the Archdiocese to churches that could benefit from some beautiful art.  I wouldn't feel so bad about old churches closing if I knew the furnishings were going to good use.

I like this idea.  So many of the newer churches have no statues, no icons... only some felt banners hanging on a bare wall, and maybe some cloth streamers.  And the stain glass windows are usually abstact designs that no one can figure out.  It would be so great to be able to "recycle" the furnishings of the older churches that are going to be shut down.

I did not know Archbishop Vigneron had a part in the "Oakland monstrosity".

And , love your avatar.  "Going My Way" is one of my favorite movies.

Yes, sadly the Arch is a solid bishop from what I've heard but has atrocious taste in architecture.

"Going My Way" is one of my favs too.  "A golf course is nothing but a pool room moved outdoors."  :grin:
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(10-29-2011, 12:20 PM)DrBombay Wrote: Yes, sadly the Arch is a solid bishop from what I've heard but has atrocious taste in architecture.

I googled some pics.  While the Oakland Catherdral is a little on the "experimental" side, I don't think its as bad as the Los Angeles Cathedral.  Now that is one ugly building!
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(10-28-2011, 03:20 PM)AllWise Wrote: It looks like the Orange County diocese lost its bid to buy the Crystal Cathedral. 
http://www.catholicculture.org/news/head...ryid=12215

I'm not too familiar with the Crystal Cathedral, but by looking at some on line photos, in some pics it looks like a regular glass office building, but in others it looks like a futuristic church.

Another article says the court has the final say as to who buys the Cathedral, so there is still a chance the OC diocese may still get it, since they offered a larger bid.
http://www.ocregister.com/news/cathedral...rsity.html

We'll know on Monday.  The Diocese of Orange bid $3.6M more than the university with even faster payment terms.  I'm not sure how that money can just be left on the table.

The Crystal Catedral is FAR from a "regular glass office building."  It's certainly not my favorite style of architecture but it's priced at about a dime on the dollar and it would be a great buy for the Diocese.
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#15
Oakland's new cathedral is quite nice.  Most people that denigrate it (like other churches) have never set foot in it.  On the other hand was it worth $200M?  Nope.
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(10-29-2011, 03:02 PM)AllWise Wrote:
(10-29-2011, 12:20 PM)DrBombay Wrote: Yes, sadly the Arch is a solid bishop from what I've heard but has atrocious taste in architecture.

I googled some pics.  While the Oakland Catherdral is a little on the "experimental" side, I don't think its as bad as the Los Angeles Cathedral.  Now that is one ugly building!

No.  It would take a degree of hideousness almost impossible to achieve the depths of awfulness that is the Los Angeles Cathedral. I do like the the LA altar though.  It's as big as an aircraft carrier.  Most NO altars are so tiny, even in big churches.  I like big altars. 
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#17
I looked up LA's cathedral.  Words cannot express... :( >:(
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(10-30-2011, 04:20 AM)SmellsBells Wrote:
(10-28-2011, 03:20 PM)AllWise Wrote: It looks like the Orange County diocese lost its bid to buy the Crystal Cathedral. 
http://www.catholicculture.org/news/head...ryid=12215

I'm not too familiar with the Crystal Cathedral, but by looking at some on line photos, in some pics it looks like a regular glass office building, but in others it looks like a futuristic church.

Another article says the court has the final say as to who buys the Cathedral, so there is still a chance the OC diocese may still get it, since they offered a larger bid.
http://www.ocregister.com/news/cathedral...rsity.html

We'll know on Monday.  The Diocese of Orange bid $3.6M more than the university with even faster payment terms.  I'm not sure how that money can just be left on the table.

The Crystal Catedral is FAR from a "regular glass office building."  It's certainly not my favorite style of architecture but it's priced at about a dime on the dollar and it would be a great buy for the Diocese.

The latest...
http://www.ocregister.com/news/diocese-3...edral.html

The diocese has filed papers to block the sale to Chapman College.
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(10-31-2011, 01:46 PM)AllWise Wrote:
(10-30-2011, 04:20 AM)SmellsBells Wrote: We'll know on Monday.  The Diocese of Orange bid $3.6M more than the university with even faster payment terms.  I'm not sure how that money can just be left on the table.

The Crystal Catedral is FAR from a "regular glass office building."  It's certainly not my favorite style of architecture but it's priced at about a dime on the dollar and it would be a great buy for the Diocese.

The latest...
http://www.ocregister.com/news/diocese-3...edral.html

The diocese has filed papers to block the sale to Chapman College.

And the latest from today...
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-...9527.story

Chapman increases its bid by a million and a half.
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#20
(10-28-2011, 07:01 PM)OldMan Wrote: Do your homework folks, most of the suburban churches are not traditional style buildings. They are ugly at best. Have you even looked at the pictures?

Old Man, you said it.  I expected some beautiful traditional churches but most if not all are generic looking churches that any Protestant group could hold services in, and be quite comfortable.  One of the churches (St. Dunstan) looks like a Hilton or Holiday Inn hotel.
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