Prevent traditional style Church buildings from being shut down in Michigan
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(11-01-2011, 05:27 PM)radartek Wrote:
(10-28-2011, 07:01 PM)OldMan Wrote: Do your homework folks, most of the suburban churches are not traditional style buildings. They are ugly at best. Have you even looked at the pictures?

Old Man, you said it.  I expected some beautiful traditional churches but most if not all are generic looking churches that any Protestant group could hold services in, and be quite comfortable.  One of the churches (St. Dunstan) looks like a Hilton or Holiday Inn hotel.

The parishes on the list are the churches the original Facebook author suggested SHOULD BE closed.  The generic, plain, multi-purpose buildings.

One of the two parishes the author said should be spared that is actually in danger of closing, Our Lady Of Czestochowa, as I said in a previous post, I think is a beautiful church.  It's not gothic or european, but for an American suburban parish, I like it.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/patriciadrury/3588073136/

If any Fisheater is interested in emailing the Archdiocese of Detroit to voice support of only closing the plain and generic parishes, and sparing the more beautiful and inspirational buildings, you should do it now, as the final decisions will be made very soon according to this article:
http://www.themichigancatholic.com/2011/...resources/
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(11-01-2011, 04:31 PM)AllWise Wrote:
(10-31-2011, 01:46 PM)AllWise Wrote:
(10-30-2011, 04:20 AM)SmellsBells Wrote: We'll know on Monday.  The Diocese of Orange bid $3.6M more than the university with even faster payment terms.  I'm not sure how that money can just be left on the table.

The Crystal Catedral is FAR from a "regular glass office building."  It's certainly not my favorite style of architecture but it's priced at about a dime on the dollar and it would be a great buy for the Diocese.

The latest...
http://www.ocregister.com/news/diocese-3...edral.html

The diocese has filed papers to block the sale to Chapman College.

And the latest from today...
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-...9527.story

Chapman increases its bid by a million and a half.

And now the Archdiocese has increased its bid to 55.4 million.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-...5063.story

Crystal Cathedral bankrupt attorney Marc Winthrop says the church board now finds either buyer, the Archdiocese or Chapman College, acceptable.
Judge Robert Kwan will decide who gets to buy it.  A hearing is scheduled for Nov 14.
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#23
Good grief, they could almost build a new Cathedral for $55 million.

Probably not, but it would at least be a good down payment.
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(11-10-2011, 12:33 PM)DrBombay Wrote: Good grief, they could almost build a new Cathedral for $55 million.

Probably not, but it would at least be a good down payment.

What is starting to bother me is what is written in this article:
http://www.ocregister.com/news/diocese-3...ystal.html

"The diocese is offering the option for the ministry to continue operating in the core buildings for a few years and then move to where St. Callistus Catholic Church is currently located – down the street at 12921 S. Lewis St.... The diocese had promised that there will be a library in the Visitor Center dedicated to founder Robert H. Schuller and his wife, Arvella, who began their ministry more than 55 years ago atop the roof of a snack shack in the Orange drive-in theater. The diocese has also promised that a chapel on the top floor of the Tower of Hope will remain untouched as an inter-faith place of worship."

I hope it doesn't turn into a "shrine" to Schuller.  Also, not too thrilled with the idea of the diocese swapping the Crystal Cathedral for St Callistus.  I hope I'm mis-reading it, and they are only going to let them use St Callistus, not give it to them outright.

I was for the diocese buying the Cathedral, but after reading these stipulations, I'm starting to hope the judge rules in favor of Chapman.
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#25
Well, it looks like the OC diocese won the right to buy the Crystal Cathedral.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/20...uller.html

Still not too thrilled about the idea the diocese will sell St Callistus in trade, but upon looking at some online pics of it, it does kind of look like a Wallgreens drug store.
[Image: StCallistus_r1_c2.jpg] [Image: walgreens.jpg]

Plus there are the bragging rights... the original "megachurch" will now be a Catholic parish.  Take that, protestantism! :fish:
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#26
And here is the latest on the OC diocese buying the Crystal Cathedral.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-...9359.story
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#27
Archbisop Vigneron has recieved the TIF committee's recommendations.
http://www.aodonline.org/AODOnline/Toget...Groups.htm

So far, nine parishes are slated to be shut down, while many others will cluster together.
http://www.detnews.com/article/20111201/...olidations

Happily, three of the parishes slated to close,
St Donald (Roeseville MI)
St Elizabeth (Wyandotte)
Our Lady of Lourdes (River Rouge)
are the ultimate 1960s "multi-purpose worship centers".

Some are more unique, if not traditionally beautiful, buildings:
St Maurice (Livonia MI) ,
St Anthony (Detroit),
Our Lady Queen of Peace (Harper Woods),
St Stanislaus (Wynandotte)

And very sadly, two traditional, historic buildings
St Luke (Detroit)
St Leo (Detroit)
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#28
Wow, St. Stan's is closing?  I thought it was doing well.  We used to go to a great Polish festival there.  The previous pastor was so well admired (and supportive of homeschooling) that much of his flock moved to his next parish with him.  He's the one who experienced a Eucharistic miracle that was referenced here a while back.  His current parish is our previous parish and I know him to be a very holy priest.
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#29
I find the following to be :censored:: unforgivable:
http://www.freep.com/article/20111202/NE...nav%7Chead

The recommendations also call for the four Detroit parishes of Nativity, St. Charles, Good Shepherd and SS. Augustine-Monica to merge into one eventually. Ultimately, the sanctuaries would be sold and a new, more environmentally friendly church would be built along the East Jefferson corridor.

But Sister Jolene Van Handel, a parish minister at Nativity, said her parish sustains itself, has 200 families and is in a historic building that should be preserved. "People say we have these beautiful, historical churches that need to be preserved, and you want to build a new one. That's stupidity,"



We need to pray for the Archdiocese of Detroit.
http://www.stjudeintercession.com/module...ryid=13521

It would also be a good idea to politely and respectfully write a letter to the Archbishop to encourage him to only target the plain and generic parish buildings for closure.

email
TogetherInFaith@aod.org

post
Archbishop Allen Vigneron
Archdiocese of Detroit
1234 Washington Blvd
Detroit MI 48226
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#30
Quote:But Sister Jolene Van Handel, a parish minister at Nativity, said her parish sustains itself, has 200 families and is in a historic building that should be preserved. "People say we have these beautiful, historical churches that need to be preserved, and you want to build a new one. That's stupidity,"

I got whiplash from the rapidity of the change of my opinions in this paragraph.  I went from rolling my eyes at Sister Jolene being a "parish minister" to wanting to applaud her sentiments.

Wouldn't it be better to cluster into one of these already functioning churches rather than building a new one??


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