The Jews think they are Collectively Jesus
#1
This seems to be something that is very important to understand. Upon looking at some videos on YouTube I came across this lady (who has popped up in related videos before while searching YouTube):



I am well aware of her views at this point. She is vehement in her hatred of Christians (especially of the Catholic Church).

Her views are certainly not unique to her. But, in light of how she presents them we can understand a lot about Judaism as a force in this world. Essentially, it seems, that Jews hold the belief that Gentiles have no Soul (this is most definitely accepted, mystical Jewish teaching) only a psyche and animating spirit. The Jews were created  by God ( in fact they say that they are God, in a body), therefore Jews have a Neshama, or Godly Soul. Israel (the Jewish people) are the only Son of God. Gentiles on the other hand (hold on to your hats!) are a creation of the collective Jewish consciousness. Thus is it is that that every name of God in the Bible is actually a name for the collective Jewish people.

The essence of Judaism is that God is incarnate in a people, namely Israel (regardless of individual Jewish observance). They are the medium through which all the Nations come to God. Essentially, the Jews believe they are that which is Christ.

So when a Christian says" None come to the Father except through the Son" The mystically inclined Jew understands this as the the collective Jewish Soul (aka God) is the medium through which Humanity comes to God.

The whole of Jewish mystical teaching, when the morass is cleared away, proclaims this: The Jews are Jesus Christ, and only through accepting that we, Gentiles, get our existence from them, we will become free.

From this point we can all start to really understand the relationship between Judaism and the Church. Remember, that these teachings did not exist until the Church came into existence. Realistically, these views were formed in contradistinction to what the Church proclaimed.
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#2
Not entirely true
I csn post vids from the world church of the creator too. In the end thy is not representive of Christianity
Jews don't hold they r God Incsrnate as a people
they hold they r the chosen people of God and they r waiting for the messiah to come and reedeem them. If judiasm believed the Jews were God thenrhere would be no need for s messiah. Or even to be a chosen people
something to think about
What sect r u refering to? Mystical Jew? What a hasid? A heredi? An orthodox? What?
I've lived amongt Jews foe years I lived I. A house with hasids. Not once dis my wx girfriend or her family ever tell me hey beloved dthemselves to be God. Actually it was very very contrary  to that. They also do NOT in any way shape or form believe thenselvz to be Jesus
lol
that's really funny though.
nice vid. But it's not representivie of judiasm or even Jewish theology or even Jewish mysticism.
I'm not a Jew. Never was a Jew. But I spent enoughtimw withthe. To know they don't believe themselves to be God. Lol
funny shit

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#3
I would say it is a branch of mystical Jewish thought. I do not think one needs to belong to a particular sect to understand things this way. As far as their Moshiach (Messiah) is concerned, this brand a mysticism thinks that the Jews, collectively are Messiah. In other words, the existence of Jews in the world is the Messiah, and when Jewry is ultimately united in Israel again under the Law they will represent Messiah come to Earth.

Of course, this is not what Judaism espouses externally. However, those within the mystical branches, and their spiritual leaders have spoken of these things.
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#4
Ubkeep saying that. I want to know the cites of Jewish mystics who claim they r God oente Jews are Jesus
that what I want
maybe so
I've been aeousn them a long time and never heard that. I've only really been around hasids of wither the chabad levebuch or the satmar
there r other sects.
Jewish mysticism is the kabalah. Is never read he kabalah. But I did know a Jew the uncle of my wx girlfriend at te time who was in kabalasy training real deal shit. U know only males and only after your 40 wct ect and we spoke a fsir bit and he never once said anyhif to the effect he believed himself or his people to be God
if anyhing I found Jews r so remote from God as all their faith is is following rules. That's it. Can't lean on this wall. Can lean on that. Dongoue shirt up wih this button first wih the rght hand en the missile with the wld wct wct wct wct all they have is w pry rules
God is ver very very distant to them. Not as abstract as the mohamadans but close enogh
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#5
The Tanya, among other writings by Rabbis, says that only Jews possess a Neshama. Neshama is a Soul. In other words, only Jews can access Godliness. The Soul is seen as a "spark" of divinity. Since only Jews possess a Godly Soul, and Gentiles only possess Nefesh, and Ruach, that makes Jews above Gentiles spiritually (They possess all three). Only they can bring God to Earth because only they contain a Godly Soul at the root of their being.

What is being espoused in the video is an interpretation of these teachings. Individual Jews perhaps say differently. The fact is that their writings betray their belief that only Jews can have a relationship with God directly.
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#6
Judaism is an anti-Christian sick cult.

That's what it all comes down to.
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#7
Here's one source for the teaching from the Tanya:

http://www.chabad.org/library/tanya/tany...Ref28a7880


However, the explanation of the matter, so that we better understand the levels of tzaddik and Beinoni, as well as the various gradations within their ranks,

על פי מה שכתב הרב חיים ויטאל ז״ל בשער הקדושה ובע׳ חיים שער נ׳ פרק ב׳

[is to be found] in light of what Rabbi Chayim Vital wrote in Shaar HaKedushah (and in Etz Chayim, Portal 5, ch. 2) —

דלכל איש ישראל אחד צדיק ואחד רשע יש שתי נשמות

that every Jew, whether righteous or wicked, possesses two souls,

וכדכתיב: ונשמות אני עשיתי,

as it is written,27 “And neshamot (souls) which I have made.”

Though the verse speaks of an individual Jew (as is indicated by the singular form of the word ruach (spirit) in the preceding phrase, “When the spirit of a man which emanates from Me will be humbled...”), the plural term souls is nevertheless used, indicating that every Jew possesses two souls.


שהן שתי נפשות

These are two nefashot28 — two souls and life-forces.

נפש אחת מצד הקליפה וסטרא אחרא

One soul originates in the kelipah and sitra achra.

“Kelipah” means a shell or peel. G-d created forces which conceal the G-dly life-force found in all creation as a peel covers and conceals a fruit. “Sitra achra” means “the other side” — the side of creation that is the antithesis of holiness and purity. (The two terms are generally synonymous.)

והיא המתלבשת בדם האדם להחיות הגוף

It is this nefesh (which originates in the kelipah and sitra achra) that is clothed in the blood of a human being, giving life to the body;

וכדכתיב: כי נפש הבשר בדם היא

as it is written,29 “For the nefesh of the flesh (i.e., the nefesh that sustains physical and corporeal life) is in the blood.”

וממנה באות כל המדות רעות מארבעה יסודות רעים שבה

From [this nefesh] stem all the evil characteristics, deriving from the four evil elements within it.

Just as the four physical elements of Fire, Air, Water and Earth are the foundation of all physical entities, so too is this nefesh comprised of four corresponding spiritual elements. Since they derive from kelipah and evil, they themselves are evil, and from them in turn one’s evil characteristics come into being.

דהיינו: כעס וגאוה מיסוד האש שנגבה למעלה

Namely: anger and pride [emanate] from the element of Fire which rises upwards;

Once ignited by anger and pride, a man (like fire) soars aloft. Pride is the state of considering oneself superior to others. Anger too is an offshoot of pride. Would a person not be proud, he would not be angered when someone defied his will.

ותאות התענוגים מיסוד המים, כי המים מצמיחים כל מיני תענוג

the appetite for pleasures [emanates] from the element of Water, for water promotes the growth of all kinds of pleasure-giving things.

The ability of water to make pleasurable things grow indicates that concealed within it is the element of pleasure. Thus, the appetite for pleasure derives from the element of Water.

והוללות וליצנות והתפארות ודברים בטלים מיסוד הרוח

frivolity and scoffing, boasting and idle talk [emanate] from the element of Air; like air, they lack substance;

ועצלות ועצבות מיסוד העפר

and sloth and melancholy [emanate] from the element of Earth.

Earth is characterized by heaviness. A man encumbered by sloth and melancholy likewise senses a heaviness of the limbs.

וגם מדות טובות שבטבע כל ישראל בתולדותם, כמו רחמנות וגמילות חסדים, באות ממנה

From this soul stem also the good traits inherent in every Jew’s character, such as compassion and benevolence.

But since this is a nefesh of kelipah and evil, how do good characteristics come from it? This matter is now addressed.

כי בישראל נפש זו דקליפה היא מקליפת נוגה, שיש בה גם כן טוב

For in the [case of the] Jew, this soul of kelipah is derived from the kelipah called “nogah”, which also contains good; and the good within this nefesh gives rise to these positive natural traits.

והיא מסוד ע׳ הדעת טוב ורע

[This kelipah] is from the esoteric “Tree of Knowledge” [which is comprised] of good and evil.30

מה שאין כן נפשות אומות העולם הן משאר קליפות טמאות שאין בהן טוב כלל

The souls of the nations of the world, however, emanate from the other, unclean kelipot which contain no good whatever,

כמו שכתוב בע׳ חיים שער מ״ט פרק ג׳: וכל טיבו דעבדין האומות לגרמייהו עבדין

as is written in Etz Chayim, Portal 49, ch. 3, that all the good that the nations do, is done out of selfish motives.

Since their nefesh emanates from kelipot which contain no good, it follows that any good done by them is for selfish motives.

וכדאיתא בגמרא על פסוק: וחסד לאומים חטאת — שכל צדקה וחסד שאומות העולם עושין אינן אלא להתייהר כו׳

So the Gemara31 comments on the verse,32 “The kindness of the nations is sin” — that all the charity and kindness done by the nations of the world is only for their self-glorification...

When a Jew acts in a benevolent manner he is motivated mainly out of concern for the welfare of his fellow. The proof of this is that were his fellow not to need his help, this would give him greater pleasure than the gratification derived from his act of kindness.

Concerning the nations of the world, however, this is not so. Their motivation is not the welfare of their fellow; rather, it stems from a self-serving motive — the desire for self-glorification, a feeling of gratification, and the like.

It should be noted that among the nations of the world there are also to be found those whose souls are derived from kelipat nogah.33 Called “the pious ones of the nations of the world,” these righteous individuals are benevolent not out of selfish motives but out of a genuine concern for their fellow.

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#8
Yes no doubt according to Jews only they posess a souk
but that's not te same as bekiving henswkves Gods
anyway
they bekive they are chosen of God not god themselves
in th end Vetus nails
not much else tos at but I've spent amongst then teyin ro figure hem out best I could
in the end ts just empty rules
that's it
rules
rules rules rules
and I want tos sy I woudknt be suprised if some sect of tem did hold what u say
but the the ones I was around  were just run ofthe mill hasids
as for thechsbad link yes I never argued otherwise
again bekiving they Bly have a true soul is diffeeet then slicing they r God
is a rather big difference. Anyway
sip

satmar is very anti zionists vervnuch so. Satmar anti Zionism puts most trads here ronshame put t that way and habad levaburch r pro zionists for the most part
thanks for the cite. It may of been a bit unfair of me cuz I just don't have tr time norhe will to wast my time reading were Jews. But thanks though
sip
anyway
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