Why going to Mass is not Optional.
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(11-14-2011, 03:33 PM)dan hunter Wrote:
(11-14-2011, 03:25 PM)Mithrandylan Wrote: Dan- I'm assuming you're writing this in response to FE that don't attend the Novus Ordo mass, even when it's the only thing available?

You're addressing the wrong issue.  The reason people don't go to the Novus Ordo isn't because they don't want to go to mass, it's because they don't believe it's a Catholic Mass.  So if you want to change their minds, saying that mass isn't optional isn't going to do anything because they surely agree with that statement.
Thank you sir.
That is correct, but we as laymen do not have the authority to say that a Form of Mass that was promulgated by a sitting Supreme Pontiff, is not Mass, I posted this in hopes that some would be humble in obedience to someone and something that is way above their paygrade.
The Mass is the Mass, and we "stinkin" laymen have not the authority to say it is not.

It's not just "stinkin' laymen...I know I shower daily and also Priests, Bishops and Cardinal's have said it's not a Catholic Mass.

"The Ottaviani Intervention"
http://fisheaters.com/ottavianiintervention.html

Letter from Cardinals Ottaviani and Bacci to His Holiness Pope Paul VI
September 25th, 1969

Most Holy Father, Having carefully examined, and presented for the scrutiny of others, the Novus Ordo Missae prepared by the experts of the Consilium ad exequendam Constitutionem de Sacra Liturgia, and after lengthy prayer and reflection, we feel it to be our bounden duty in the sight of God and towards Your Holiness, to put before you the following considerations:

1. The accompanying critical study of the Novus Ordo Missae, the work of a group of theologians, liturgists and pastors of souls, shows quite clearly in spite of its brevity that if we consider the innovations implied or taken for granted which may of course be evaluated in different ways, the Novus Ordo represents, both as a whole and in its details, a striking departure from the Catholic theology of the Mass as it was formulated in Session XXII of the Council of Trent. The "canons" of the rite definitively fixed at that time provided an insurmountable barrier to any heresy directed against the integrity of the Mystery.

2. The pastoral reasons adduced to support such a grave break with tradition, even if such reasons could be regarded as holding good in the face of doctrinal considerations, do not seem to us sufficient. The innovations in the Novus Ordo and the fact that all that is of perennial value finds only a minor place, if it subsists at all, could well turn into a certainty the suspicions already prevalent, alas, in many circles, that truths which have always been believed by the Christian people, can be changed or ignored without infidelity to that sacred deposit of doctrine to which the Catholic faith is bound for ever. Recent reforms have amply demonstrated that fresh changes in the liturgy could lead to nothing but complete bewilderment on the part of the faithful who are already showing signs of restiveness and of an indubitable lessening of faith.

Amongst the best of the clergy the practical result is an agonising crisis of conscience of which innumerable instances come tour notice daily.

3. We are certain that these considerations, which can only reach Your Holiness by the living voice of both shepherds and flock, cannot but find an echo in Your paternal heart, always so profoundly solicitous for the spiritual needs of the children of the Church. It has always been the case that when a law meant for the good of subjects proves to be on the contrary harmful, those subjects have the right, nay the duty of asking with filial trust for the abrogation of that law.

Therefore we most earnestly beseech Your Holiness, at a time of such painful divisions and ever-increasing perils for the purity of the Faith and the unity of the church, lamented by You our common Father, not to deprive us of the possibility of continuing to have recourse to the fruitful integrity of that Missale Romanum of St. Pius V, so highly praised by Your Holiness and so deeply loved and venerated by the whole Catholic world.

A. Card. Ottaviani
A. Card. Bacci
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Re: Why going to Mass is not Optional. - by Jenn - 11-12-2011, 03:03 PM
Re: Why going to Mass is not Optional. - by Jenn - 11-12-2011, 03:30 PM
Re: Why going to Mass is not Optional. - by Nic - 11-14-2011, 09:53 AM
Re: Why going to Mass is not Optional. - by Nic - 11-14-2011, 10:43 AM
Re: Why going to Mass is not Optional. - by Petertherock - 11-14-2011, 05:28 PM
Re: Why going to Mass is not Optional. - by Nic - 11-14-2011, 05:48 PM



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