Apparently, the TLM is forbidden in the Holy Land.
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http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2011/11...en-in.html
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#2
More needless and unlawful church restrictions on the TLM.

However, this........ was interesting.
Quote:10. Priests of the Fraternity of Saint Pius X (known as Lefebvrists) may celebrate in the basilicas and sanctuaries in private and without publicizing their initiatives.

Has this happened *anywhere*?  I know annually we read of the SSPX being shunned from the Sacre Coeur in Paris (or is it Chartres?  or both?), but have we ever seen a local ordinary approve of their offering the TLM inside a church (well, I think St. Peter's Basilica has it happen...)??
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(11-15-2011, 02:03 PM)CollegeCatholic Wrote: More needless and unlawful church restrictions on the TLM.

However, this........ was interesting.
Quote:10. Priests of the Fraternity of Saint Pius X (known as Lefebvrists) may celebrate in the basilicas and sanctuaries in private and without publicizing their initiatives.

Has this happened *anywhere*?  I know annually we read of the SSPX being shunned from the Sacre Coeur in Paris (or is it Chartres?  or both?), but have we ever seen a local ordinary approve of their offering the TLM inside a church (well, I think St. Peter's Basilica has it happen...)??
And priests of the SSPX have been allowed to offer Mass at the National Basilica in Washington DC.

I am surprised that the Ecclesia Dei groups are not permitted to of Mass in the Holy Land if the SSPX are.
Preferential treatment?
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#4
that's just plain bizarre. 
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#5
Well, that's odd. Very odd.

Pray it'll be unforbidden (can't think of the proper word, 'tis at the tip'o'me tongue though!)
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(11-15-2011, 03:57 PM)LoyalVIews Wrote: Well, that's odd. Very odd.

Pray it'll be unforbidden (can't think of the proper word, 'tis at the tip'o'me tongue though!)
Maybe "overturned".
But "unforbidden" is better.
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#7
I think the opposite of forbidden is permitted or allowed.
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(11-15-2011, 03:04 PM)dan hunter Wrote:
(11-15-2011, 02:03 PM)CollegeCatholic Wrote: More needless and unlawful church restrictions on the TLM.

However, this........ was interesting.
Quote:10. Priests of the Fraternity of Saint Pius X (known as Lefebvrists) may celebrate in the basilicas and sanctuaries in private and without publicizing their initiatives.

Has this happened *anywhere*?  I know annually we read of the SSPX being shunned from the Sacre Coeur in Paris (or is it Chartres?  or both?), but have we ever seen a local ordinary approve of their offering the TLM inside a church (well, I think St. Peter's Basilica has it happen...)??
And priests of the SSPX have been allowed to offer Mass at the National Basilica in Washington DC.

I am surprised that the Ecclesia Dei groups are not permitted to of Mass in the Holy Land if the SSPX are.
Preferential treatment?


I was in the Holy Land with the Pius x pilgrimage group.  We had mass in churches all over the Holy Land.  The Franciscans were huffy but permitted it.
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Quote:6. It is recommended that each basilica or sanctuary have an altar in a side chapel that allows for the celebration of the Eucharist with the back to the people.

(Emphasis added)

I do not want to read too much into the phraseology, but this seems to be a very strange way of describing the ad Orientem posture. I would think that the better way to describe it would be "facing God in the Tabernacle."
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(11-15-2011, 03:57 PM)LoyalVIews Wrote: Well, that's odd. Very odd.

Pray it'll be unforbidden (can't think of the proper word, 'tis at the tip'o'me tongue though!)


Deforbiddenated.  :grin:
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