Spousal Contraception Qs
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(11-16-2011, 03:13 PM)StrictCatholicGirl Wrote:
(11-16-2011, 03:11 PM)Mithrandylan Wrote:
(11-16-2011, 03:06 PM)Ray M Facere Wrote:
Quote:But are they obliged to? I would think not. I think the non-contracepting spouse would not be required to pay the marriage debt to a contracepting spouse.

I agree that they would not be obliged to.

If anything, they're obliged <i>not</i> to.

You seem very determined about this.. But there are clergy and moral theologians who disagree with you.

And I'd love to know the argument.  The only argument that I can see so far is one that denies one or more of the following:

That contraception is a sin
That sexual intimacy makes two into one flesh
That the marriage debt is owed at all costs
That there is no such thing as being an accessory to sin

That "clergy and moral theologians" disagree with anything is hardly a statement that holds much water these days.  I don't mean to be contrarian SCG- but I feel very strongly about this as you can tell and I am really having a hard time reconciling what these "clergy and moral theologians" are saying with Catholic teaching.  Maybe you can help me by providing some specifics?
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Spousal Contraception Qs - by Gris - 11-15-2011, 02:54 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by K3vinhood - 11-15-2011, 03:07 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by K3vinhood - 11-15-2011, 03:23 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Gris - 11-15-2011, 03:24 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Scriptorium - 11-15-2011, 03:39 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Gris - 11-15-2011, 03:45 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Gris - 11-15-2011, 04:14 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Gris - 11-15-2011, 07:10 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-15-2011, 07:15 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Scriptorium - 11-15-2011, 07:32 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Adam_Michael - 11-15-2011, 08:22 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-15-2011, 08:26 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Scriptorium - 11-15-2011, 08:41 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-15-2011, 08:43 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Adam_Michael - 11-15-2011, 08:52 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Adam_Michael - 11-15-2011, 08:52 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Scriptorium - 11-15-2011, 11:37 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by OCLittleFlower - 11-16-2011, 06:36 AM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by SCG - 11-16-2011, 01:51 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Servire Deo - 11-16-2011, 01:55 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by newyorkcatholic - 11-16-2011, 01:57 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by newyorkcatholic - 11-16-2011, 01:57 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Servire Deo - 11-16-2011, 01:59 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by SCG - 11-16-2011, 02:06 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-16-2011, 02:11 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by newyorkcatholic - 11-16-2011, 02:20 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Ray M Facere - 11-16-2011, 03:01 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Scriptorium - 11-16-2011, 03:03 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-16-2011, 03:04 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Ray M Facere - 11-16-2011, 03:06 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-16-2011, 03:11 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Scriptorium - 11-16-2011, 03:13 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by SCG - 11-16-2011, 03:13 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Servire Deo - 11-16-2011, 03:17 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-16-2011, 05:01 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-16-2011, 05:05 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Vetus Ordo - 11-16-2011, 05:14 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-16-2011, 05:20 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Jenn - 11-16-2011, 05:30 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Vetus Ordo - 11-16-2011, 05:49 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-16-2011, 06:02 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Jenn - 11-16-2011, 06:23 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Gris - 11-16-2011, 06:25 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-16-2011, 06:31 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-16-2011, 06:32 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Gris - 11-16-2011, 06:54 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-16-2011, 06:55 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Gris - 11-16-2011, 06:59 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by newyorkcatholic - 11-17-2011, 12:00 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by newyorkcatholic - 11-17-2011, 12:04 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Scriptorium - 11-18-2011, 04:39 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by newyorkcatholic - 11-19-2011, 01:51 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-19-2011, 07:44 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Servire Deo - 11-19-2011, 07:56 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-19-2011, 08:26 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Scriptorium - 11-19-2011, 08:45 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Servire Deo - 11-19-2011, 08:48 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by newyorkcatholic - 11-21-2011, 01:55 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by LoneWolfRadTrad - 11-21-2011, 02:19 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-21-2011, 02:36 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by newyorkcatholic - 11-21-2011, 03:02 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Geremia - 11-21-2011, 04:09 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-21-2011, 04:19 PM



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