Spousal Contraception Qs
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(11-16-2011, 05:05 PM)Mithrandylan Wrote: And I'd love to know the argument.  The only argument that I can see so far is one that denies one or more of the following:

That contraception is a sin
That sexual intimacy makes two into one flesh
That the marriage debt is owed at all costs
That there is no such thing as being an accessory to sin

That "clergy and moral theologians" disagree with anything is hardly a statement that holds much water these days.  I don't mean to be contrarian SCG- but I feel very strongly about this as you can tell and I am really having a hard time reconciling what these "clergy and moral theologians" are saying with Catholic teaching.  Maybe you can help me by providing some specifics?

A friend of mine was in the situation a few years ago. I was told by my priest (in making enquiries on her behalf) that as long as she registered her objections clearly, she was not required to abstain. I was referred to Casti Connubii, in particular, this passage:

Quote:59. Holy Church knows well that not infrequently one of the parties is sinned against rather than sinning, when for a grave cause he or she reluctantly allows the perversion of the right order. In such a case, there is no sin, provided that, mindful of the law of charity, he or she does not neglect to seek to dissuade and to deter the partner from sin. Nor are those considered as acting against nature who in the married state use their right in the proper manner although on account of natural reasons either of time or of certain defects, new life cannot be brought forth. For in matrimony as well as in the use of the matrimonial rights there are also secondary ends, such as mutual aid, the cultivating of mutual love, and the quieting of concupiscence which husband and wife are not forbidden to consider so long as they are subordinated to the primary end and so long as the intrinsic nature of the act is preserved.
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Spousal Contraception Qs - by Gris - 11-15-2011, 02:54 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by K3vinhood - 11-15-2011, 03:07 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by K3vinhood - 11-15-2011, 03:23 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Gris - 11-15-2011, 03:24 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Scriptorium - 11-15-2011, 03:39 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Gris - 11-15-2011, 03:45 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Gris - 11-15-2011, 04:14 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Gris - 11-15-2011, 07:10 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-15-2011, 07:15 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Scriptorium - 11-15-2011, 07:32 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Adam_Michael - 11-15-2011, 08:22 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-15-2011, 08:26 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Scriptorium - 11-15-2011, 08:41 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-15-2011, 08:43 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Adam_Michael - 11-15-2011, 08:52 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Adam_Michael - 11-15-2011, 08:52 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Scriptorium - 11-15-2011, 11:37 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by OCLittleFlower - 11-16-2011, 06:36 AM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by SCG - 11-16-2011, 01:51 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Servire Deo - 11-16-2011, 01:55 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by newyorkcatholic - 11-16-2011, 01:57 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by newyorkcatholic - 11-16-2011, 01:57 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Servire Deo - 11-16-2011, 01:59 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by SCG - 11-16-2011, 02:06 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-16-2011, 02:11 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by newyorkcatholic - 11-16-2011, 02:20 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Ray M Facere - 11-16-2011, 03:01 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Scriptorium - 11-16-2011, 03:03 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-16-2011, 03:04 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Ray M Facere - 11-16-2011, 03:06 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-16-2011, 03:11 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Scriptorium - 11-16-2011, 03:13 PM
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Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Servire Deo - 11-16-2011, 03:17 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-16-2011, 05:01 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-16-2011, 05:05 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Vetus Ordo - 11-16-2011, 05:14 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-16-2011, 05:20 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Jenn - 11-16-2011, 05:30 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Vetus Ordo - 11-16-2011, 05:49 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-16-2011, 06:02 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Jenn - 11-16-2011, 06:23 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Gris - 11-16-2011, 06:25 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-16-2011, 06:31 PM
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Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Gris - 11-16-2011, 06:54 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-16-2011, 06:55 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Gris - 11-16-2011, 06:59 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by newyorkcatholic - 11-17-2011, 12:00 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by newyorkcatholic - 11-17-2011, 12:04 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Scriptorium - 11-18-2011, 04:39 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by newyorkcatholic - 11-19-2011, 01:51 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-19-2011, 07:44 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Servire Deo - 11-19-2011, 07:56 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Mithrandylan - 11-19-2011, 08:26 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Scriptorium - 11-19-2011, 08:45 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Servire Deo - 11-19-2011, 08:48 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by newyorkcatholic - 11-21-2011, 01:55 PM
Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by LoneWolfRadTrad - 11-21-2011, 02:19 PM
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Re: Spousal Contraception Qs - by Geremia - 11-21-2011, 04:09 PM
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