Conversation with Fr. James Gordon, FSSP, about Vatican II
#11
(12-27-2011, 11:12 PM)Tapatio Wrote:
(12-27-2011, 11:10 PM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(12-27-2011, 11:04 PM)Tapatio Wrote:
(12-27-2011, 11:03 PM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(12-27-2011, 10:42 PM)Tapatio Wrote: I think they took down the youtube video.

Mexico might have different laws regarding taped conversations and it might be blocked for you as a result. 
It very well may be.
Does he mention anything revealing?

I am not going to listen to it. 
But if the enemy is posting it, why not at least know what he has?
I know, curiosity killed the cat.

I don't consider the person posting my enemy.  It is probobly just a long conversation with a priest talking off the top of his head nor someone trained in rhetoric with someone who had ample time to prepare for the phone call and thus not giving the best performance ever.  The tape is over an hour long so Father was certainly quite charitable in speaking so long with someone clearly trying to rattle him. 
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#12
(12-27-2011, 11:16 PM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(12-27-2011, 11:12 PM)Tapatio Wrote:
(12-27-2011, 11:10 PM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(12-27-2011, 11:04 PM)Tapatio Wrote:
(12-27-2011, 11:03 PM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(12-27-2011, 10:42 PM)Tapatio Wrote: I think they took down the youtube video.

Mexico might have different laws regarding taped conversations and it might be blocked for you as a result. 
It very well may be.
Does he mention anything revealing?

I am not going to listen to it. 
But if the enemy is posting it, why not at least know what he has?
I know, curiosity killed the cat.

I don't consider the person posting my enemy.  It is probobly just a long conversation with a priest talking off the top of his head nor someone trained in rhetoric with someone who had ample time to prepare for the phone call and thus not giving the best performance ever.  The tape is over an hour long so Father was certainly quite charitable in speaking so long with someone clearly trying to rattle him. 
I said if.
So, it's "probable" that you have seen the video.
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#13
I found the conversation to be very revealing. I thing this priest has held his ground. I have never heard someone defend our Pope so well against
The sedevacantist position.

We need more talks like this. How is this crisis ever going to end if people are afraid to talk about what is important?
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#14
(12-27-2011, 11:23 PM)Tapatio Wrote:
(12-27-2011, 11:16 PM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(12-27-2011, 11:12 PM)Tapatio Wrote:
(12-27-2011, 11:10 PM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(12-27-2011, 11:04 PM)Tapatio Wrote:
(12-27-2011, 11:03 PM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(12-27-2011, 10:42 PM)Tapatio Wrote: I think they took down the youtube video.

Mexico might have different laws regarding taped conversations and it might be blocked for you as a result. 
It very well may be.
Does he mention anything revealing?

I am not going to listen to it. 
But if the enemy is posting it, why not at least know what he has?
I know, curiosity killed the cat.

I don't consider the person posting my enemy.  It is probobly just a long conversation with a priest talking off the top of his head nor someone trained in rhetoric with someone who had ample time to prepare for the phone call and thus not giving the best performance ever.  The tape is over an hour long so Father was certainly quite charitable in speaking so long with someone clearly trying to rattle him. 
I said if.
So, it's "probable" that you have seen the video.

I clicked on it before I knew what it was and then stopped after it became clear what it was.  
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#15
(12-27-2011, 11:29 PM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(12-27-2011, 11:23 PM)Tapatio Wrote:
(12-27-2011, 11:16 PM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(12-27-2011, 11:12 PM)Tapatio Wrote:
(12-27-2011, 11:10 PM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(12-27-2011, 11:04 PM)Tapatio Wrote:
(12-27-2011, 11:03 PM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(12-27-2011, 10:42 PM)Tapatio Wrote: I think they took down the youtube video.

Mexico might have different laws regarding taped conversations and it might be blocked for you as a result. 
It very well may be.
Does he mention anything revealing?

I am not going to listen to it. 
But if the enemy is posting it, why not at least know what he has?
I know, curiosity killed the cat.

I don't consider the person posting my enemy.  It is probobly just a long conversation with a priest talking off the top of his head nor someone trained in rhetoric with someone who had ample time to prepare for the phone call and thus not giving the best performance ever.  The tape is over an hour long so Father was certainly quite charitable in speaking so long with someone clearly trying to rattle him. 
I said if.
So, it's "probable" that you have seen the video.

I clicked on it before I knew what it was and then stopped after it became clear what it was.  
Got it.
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#16
I began to listen but then abandoned it because of "Brother" Dimond's barbarism in beginning the conversation in ambush mode and without identifying himself.
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#17
(12-27-2011, 11:42 PM)Jackson K. Eskew Wrote: I began to listen but then abandoned it because of "Brother" Dimond's barbarism in beginning the conversation in ambush mode and without identifying himself.
The worst part about it is that he (dimond) actually suckers people by snippets, sound bites and vid clips into becoming sedes.
Hook, line & sinker
Whereas before, people read and studied and desisted on the sede notion due to education.
Probably the only sede "apologist" that I know of that has studied and read is Hutton Gibson.
I think pride got the best of him. Too bad he is a sede. 



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#18
(12-27-2011, 11:52 PM)Tapatio Wrote:
(12-27-2011, 11:42 PM)Jackson K. Eskew Wrote: I began to listen but then abandoned it because of "Brother" Dimond's barbarism in beginning the conversation in ambush mode and without identifying himself.
The worst part about it is that he (dimond) actually suckers people by snippets, sound bites and vid clips into becoming sedes.
Hook, line & sinker
Whereas before, people read and studied and desisted on the sede notion due to education.
Probably the only sede "apologist" that I know of that has studied and read is Hutton Gibson.
I think pride got the best of him. Too bad he is a sede. 

I wouldn't be surprised if Dimond severely edited that conversation.
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#19
I carry a card from Fr. Gordon's ordination mass in my missal.  I think he did a good job in defending The Faith on the part I listened to but that this should be taken down because it seems he was not informed that this was being recorded for this purpose.  Although it may not be illegal for "Brother" Dimond to do this, shame on him all the same. 
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#20
We're also not allowed to talk about sedevecantism on the main forum.
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