Dealing with the Deceptive Dimond Demimonde
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(12-30-2011, 06:16 PM)FatherCekada Wrote:
(12-29-2011, 07:58 PM)columb Wrote: However, on the balance of theological evidence that I have studied thus far from both positions, I've come to the conclusion and believe that Baptism of Desire is a non doctrine and is refuted by the dogmatic pronouncements of the Church on EENS.

Sorry, but you don't have the right to form your own opinion on baptism of desire.

General Principle from Pius IX: All Catholics are obliged to adhere to a teaching if Catholic theologians hold it by common consent, or hold it as de fide or Catholic doctrine, or as theologically certain.

Particular Fact: Catholic theologians DO hold the teaching on baptism of desire (and baptism of blood) by common consent, or hold it as de fide or Catholic doctrine, or as theologically certain.

(See the table attached to the following article:

http://www.traditionalmass.org/images/ar...roofed.pdf )

Conclusion: Therefore all Catholics are obliged to adhere to the teaching on baptism of desire (and baptism of blood).

The only issues you or I might be free to hold an opinion about would be  the degree of error on the part of someone who denies these teachings (theological error, error in Catholic doctrine or heresy) or the gravity of the sin against the faith he commits (mortal sin indirectly against the faith, or directly against the faith).

While I fly in lots of planes, I wouldn't think of formulating my own theories about the science of aerodynamics (aircraft are held up by pixies and phlogiston, say), still less build and fly an aircraft based on them.

So too, while we are all Catholics who love the faith, we must recognize that theology is a science which operates according to rules and principles that one discards at his own peril. If the experts have commonly taught a certain doctrine for centuries and if their writings have consistenly received the approval of the magisterium, we place ourselves in grave spiritual peril if we presume to deny the doctrine they teach.

Fr,

Stipulating that you are correct in your premise and conclusion, are we free in your opinion to believe that it has probably never happened?  Whether one holds the "Feeney " position or BOD or BOB, no more or less souls are saved either formulation.  Feeney's position simply is more consistent with God's economy. and Pope Eugene's statement in Cantate Domino that is either false or severely limits Baptism of Blood.

Re: Sciences in general and areas of specialty,  do you believe in neo Darwinian evolution?
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Re: Dealing with the Deceptive Dimond Demimonde - by Gerard - 12-31-2011, 04:08 AM



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