Baptism of Desire and Theological Principles by Fr. Cekada
(12-29-2011, 09:54 PM)Grasshopper Wrote:
(12-29-2011, 09:45 PM)Stubborn Wrote: FYI, the state of grace does not = salvation.
Lucifer was once in the state of grace.

There is no mention of salvation via any desire anywhere in any authoritative church teaching - including the one you are misinterpreting.

However, dying in the state of grace does equal salvation. That's implicit in the very meaning of "state of grace". And baptism of desire is only relevant in the case of imminent death. It doesn't mean you can blithely go through your whole life never intending to be baptized, and nobody here is pretending that it does mean that. It has very limited applicability. But that doesn't mean it doesn't exist at all.

Dying in the state of grace is via BOD may or may not suffice for salvation. As it is now, the Church teaches it suffices for grace and justification. THAT is all She has ever taught infallibly. Never anywhere has She ever infallibly taught that one who dies unbaptized goes to heaven.

That's just the truth of the matter. People who make the leap to salvation via BOD do so on their own, then claim that  that is what is written. As though the popes and councils forgot something or were incapable of actually finishing what they started to say.

The fact is, you will NEVER find infallible teachings that reward salvation to the unbaptized because if the Church taught such a teaching explicitly, She would explicitly be contradicting the words of Our Lord. 

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