Baptism of Desire: Avoiding the Red Herrings on a Nearby Thread
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(12-31-2011, 05:05 PM)Someone1776 Wrote:
(12-31-2011, 04:42 PM)FatherCekada Wrote: 1. General Principle from Pius IX: All Catholics are obliged to adhere to a teaching if Catholic theologians hold it by common consent, or hold it as de fide or Catholic doctrine, or as theologically certain.

Quote:Does any member of the Feeney faction here deny #1?

Not to be glib, but don't most traditionalists deny #1?  Most traditionalists believe that the Church hierarchy, as a whole, can teach error.  Once you accept this aren't you basically free to reject any Church teaching you like?  Doesn't this debate over BoD really show an underlying problem with the way most traditionalists approach theology in that they often skirt near Protestantism in their view of authority and the Church?  Most traditionalists ignore this point you keep making over and over, because they just don't accept it. 

The premise at work here is that the magisterium can't contradict itself. The adherence to teachings held by the common consent of Catholic theologians as de fide or Catholic doctrine, or held as theologically certain, is necessary when that teaching does not contradict the previous declarations of the magisterium (such as, for example, the salvific efficacy of desire for baptism animated by perfect charity). However, when a teaching held by the common consent of theologians is a direct contradiction of the previous declarations of the magisterium, a Catholic cannot, in good conscience adhere to it (such as, for example, during the Arian heresy).
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Re: Baptism of Desire: Avoiding the Red Herrings on a Nearby Thread - by INPEFESS - 01-01-2012, 06:05 AM



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