Baptism of Desire: Avoiding the Red Herrings on a Nearby Thread
(01-31-2012, 08:43 PM)Gregory I Wrote:
(01-31-2012, 03:50 PM)Parmandur Wrote:
(01-31-2012, 02:02 AM)Gregory I Wrote:
(01-30-2012, 03:57 PM)Parmandur Wrote:
(01-30-2012, 10:05 AM)Gregory I Wrote: Does God command impossibilities?

Yea or Nay?

Of course not that is why baptism or the desire thereof are necessary for salvation.  As the Church teaches.

Ah, but you do err my friend. God did not COMMAND baptism of desire. Theologians have SPECULATED that it MAY be a way to SUPPLY water baptism. But his speculation only began SERIOUSLY LATE in the churches history; in the Scholastic era AFTER the era of the fathers; which scholastics are BOUND to interpret sacred scripture ACCORDING to the UNANIMOUS CONSENT of the Fathers.

Do you disagree?

Do the words of our Lord in John 3:5 constitute a Command?

Yay or Nay?

It's not a yes or no question.  Distinctions must be made, and you are failing to do so.

Then tell me:

If a person is Justified by BOD, in what sense do our Lord's words apply to Him? In a metaphorical sense?

Did our Lord issue a command in John 3:5 for those whom he meant it literally? But not for those who he foreknew would not receive it, and for whom he only meant the words metaphorically?

According to your reasoning, baptized babies who die before eating the flesh and drinking the blood of our Lord should go to Hell.  There are absolutely no exceptions, right?  Because our Lord said, "Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you" (John 6:54).

:LOL:  I see that INPEFESS has beaten me to the punch!

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Re: Baptism of Desire: Avoiding the Red Herrings on a Nearby Thread - by SouthpawLink - 02-01-2012, 05:09 PM

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