Baptism of Desire: Avoiding the Red Herrings on a Nearby Thread
Gregory,

From another post: (borrowing from you and SouthpawLink)
(02-01-2012, 03:34 AM)SouthpawLink Wrote:
(02-01-2012, 01:46 AM)Gregory I Wrote: Seriously though, the key reason BOD will NEVER be declared dogma is that it has NEVER been unanimously taught. It is an opinion of men.

The dogma of the Immaculate Conception remained at the level of opinion until the late seventeenth century (8 December 1661).  There was never a universal consensus of the Fathers or Theologians on it, except that it was unanimously accepted by the Magisterium on the eve of its definition (2 February 1849).  So, it went from "opinion" to "definable" in under 200 years.

Baptism of desire, on the other hand, has been around for at least the last 1,000 years, and has the unanimous consent of the Scholastics.  It has been taught by Pontiffs, Doctors, the Roman Martyrology, the Roman Ritual, Canon Law and various catechisms, especially that of Trent.  Ex Omnibus Afflictionibus seals the deal with its teaching on catechumens being able to have perfect charity, be justified, have the remission of sins and not be damned.

Of course you disagree with the second paragraph, but how do you answer the question comparing Baptism of Desire with the Immaculate Conception? Would you have said "the Immaculate Conception will NEVER be declared dogma [since] it has NEVER been unanimously taught. It is an opinion of men"?
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Re: Baptism of Desire: Avoiding the Red Herrings on a Nearby Thread - by Doce Me - 02-02-2012, 12:49 AM



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