The new Constitution [Fundamental Law] of Hungary - sanity in Europe??
#21
(01-18-2012, 09:09 AM)Crusader_Philly Wrote: No one can escape the "superforce," NWO, powers that be, corporations, whatever one wishes to call it.ANTICHRIST As I heard Fr. Malachi Martin once say "from the pampas of Argentina, to Kathmandu, Nepal, to right here in New York City, there's no escaping it, Bernard."
Reply
#22
(01-18-2012, 09:13 AM)voxxpopulisuxx Wrote:
(01-18-2012, 09:09 AM)Crusader_Philly Wrote: No one can escape the "superforce," NWO, powers that be, corporations, whatever one wishes to call it.ANTICHRIST As I heard Fr. Malachi Martin once say "from the pampas of Argentina, to Kathmandu, Nepal, to right here in New York City, there's no escaping it, Bernard."
True, no place to run

However, Fr. Kramer stipulated that Poland will fight the A.C./NWO.  Portugal will be overlooked b/c it will seem insignificant ("...will not lose the faith").
Interesting that some prophecies indicate that WW3 will begin in the Balkans.

"Another Hungarian Uprising, Another Invasion"

by The Philosopher  January 17th, 2012
Catholicism.org

This time it’s a kinder, gentler communist, the type who does everything in the name of democracy. From the Lew Rockwell Blog: Regime Change Express Surges Toward Budapest.

Poor Tamas Fellegi. Hungary’s envoy to the International Monetary Fund had to spend last week enduring endless lectures on democracy and fiscal responsibility from the unelected head of an international financial organization that is largely funded with money stolen from the US taxpayer.

And poor Viktor Orban. Just over twenty years ago the young Hungarian had the temerity to stand up at the reburial of the hero of the 1956 uprising to demand that Soviet troops leave and that the communist regime agree to hold free and democratic elections. The communists didn’t like him very much. Orban and many other anti-communists of that era were fighting unelected Moscow-based occupiers who stole his country’s sovereignty and ruined its economy for ideological reasons. Now, as Hungary’s prime minister, he is fighting against an unelected Brussels and Washington-based force that seeks to steal (what’s left of) his country’s sovereignty and ruin its economy for ideological reasons.

The Europeans — and US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton — are bearing down on the Hungarian government, attacking its “authoritarian tendencies” and demanding that Orban restore democracy."
Reply
#23
(01-18-2012, 12:16 AM)jovan66102 Wrote: The pushback has begun. While these cases don't attack the parts of the Constitution we've been discussing, I'm sure it's just the opening salvo in the war.

EU Begins Legal Cases Against Hungary

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424...49280.html

Could lead to the start of the disintegration of the EU.
Reply
#24
(01-19-2012, 12:24 AM)mikemac Wrote:
(01-18-2012, 12:16 AM)jovan66102 Wrote: The pushback has begun. While these cases don't attack the parts of the Constitution we've been discussing, I'm sure it's just the opening salvo in the war.

EU Begins Legal Cases Against Hungary

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424...49280.html

Could lead to the start of the disintegration of the EU.

We can hope and PRAY!
Reply
#25
Can anyone explain to me how this happened?  Has Hungary always been this devoutly Christian?  How did they fight back against modern European liberalism, secularism, etc. to get this passed?
Reply
#26
(01-19-2012, 12:55 AM)Walty Wrote: Can anyone explain to me how this happened?  Has Hungary always been this devoutly Christian?  How did they fight back against modern European liberalism, secularism, etc. to get this passed?

Their Christianity has been a bulwark for centuries, first against the followers of the paedophile (swine dung be upon him) and then much more recently against the atheistic Reds, much like the Poles, in fact, except that the latter weren't subject to the Muslim yoke. Poland has been trying to stand up as well.
Reply
#27
(01-19-2012, 12:32 AM)jovan66102 Wrote:
(01-19-2012, 12:24 AM)mikemac Wrote:
(01-18-2012, 12:16 AM)jovan66102 Wrote: The pushback has begun. While these cases don't attack the parts of the Constitution we've been discussing, I'm sure it's just the opening salvo in the war.

EU Begins Legal Cases Against Hungary

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424...49280.html

Could lead to the start of the disintegration of the EU.

We can hope and PRAY!

Jovan, have you listened to Nigel Farage's most recent tirade against that socialist rat, Schulz, the new president of the European Parliament?

Brilliant as ever! Watch it here if you haven't:

Reply
#28
(01-19-2012, 01:09 AM)Vetus Ordo Wrote: Jovan, have you listened to Nigel Farage's most recent tirade against that socialist rat, Schulz, the new president of the European Parliament?

Brilliant as ever! Watch it here if you haven't:

Thanks, Vetus! I had not seen it.
Reply
#29
(01-19-2012, 12:59 AM)jovan66102 Wrote:
(01-19-2012, 12:55 AM)Walty Wrote: Can anyone explain to me how this happened?  Has Hungary always been this devoutly Christian?  How did they fight back against modern European liberalism, secularism, etc. to get this passed?

Their Christianity has been a bulwark for centuries, first against the followers of the paedophile (swine dung be upon him) and then much more recently against the atheistic Reds, much like the Poles, in fact, except that the latter weren't subject to the Muslim yoke. Poland has been trying to stand up as well.

Yeah, it's certainly true in history. But I have to say, having lived there, that most people are pretty modern and secular now. There are a lot of old communists, a lot of young liberals, and a lot of people who have bought into a western consumer culture and don't really care. The Faith is mainly practised by older people (apart from Trads, but there aren't that many Trads).

I think what swung it was the massive unpopularity of the previous Socialist government, coupled with the (not unconnected) financial woes of the country. This is what has caused a massive swing to the right - not so much the Christian convictions of the people.

There is also quite a lot of patriotism. Even though the people aren't that religious, they tend to be patriotic and, as such, to support the idea of Hungary as a Christian nation at least in theory. Hopefully this new constitution will revive the faith of many.

The new government do have a massive majority. What I would worry about is whether the foundations are really there in the people to make something lasting out of this.

We need to keep Hungary in our prayers.
Reply
#30
(01-19-2012, 03:25 AM)Martinus Wrote:
(01-19-2012, 12:59 AM)jovan66102 Wrote:
(01-19-2012, 12:55 AM)Walty Wrote: Can anyone explain to me how this happened?  Has Hungary always been this devoutly Christian?  How did they fight back against modern European liberalism, secularism, etc. to get this passed?

Their Christianity has been a bulwark for centuries, first against the followers of the paedophile (swine dung be upon him) and then much more recently against the atheistic Reds, much like the Poles, in fact, except that the latter weren't subject to the Muslim yoke. Poland has been trying to stand up as well.

Yeah, it's certainly true in history. But I have to say, having lived there, that most people are pretty modern and secular now. There are a lot of old communists, a lot of young liberals, and a lot of people who have bought into a western consumer culture and don't really care. The Faith is mainly practised by older people (apart from Trads, but there aren't that many Trads).

I think what swung it was the massive unpopularity of the previous Socialist government, coupled with the (not unconnected) financial woes of the country. This is what has caused a massive swing to the right - not so much the Christian convictions of the people.

There is also quite a lot of patriotism. Even though the people aren't that religious, they tend to be patriotic and, as such, to support the idea of Hungary as a Christian nation at least in theory. Hopefully this new constitution will revive the faith of many.

The new government do have a massive majority. What I would worry about is whether the foundations are really there in the people to make something lasting out of this.

We need to keep Hungary in our prayers.
Would be nice to see ROME get very vocal and open and even directly supporting them with financial aide if possible. Like blowing on a small ember, the Church has an opportunity to regain ground...even if it is superficial at first. The EU satanists are gonna try to crush this fast....just because their demonic greed cannot allow the Hungarians not to PAY their slavemasters.
Reply




Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)