True Church vs Apostate Church debate.
There is a sense that some folk feel this debate/issue enters the zone of Sedevecantism. It does not however and the reality of the issue is supported by many Catholic Saints and Prophecies.
For the record,I don't believe the seat to be empty, but rather weakly filled in recent decades.Big difference.

Let's look at some prophecy supporting the notion of the True vs Apostate Church:

St Paul said that the Antichrist will not be revealed until "the apostasy comes first" (2 Thessalonians 2:3).

Our Lady of La Salette

“Lucifer, with a great number of demons will be unchained from Hell. By degrees they shall abolish the Faith, even among persons consecrated to God.”

“In every place there will be extraordinary prodigies, because the true Faith has been extinguished.”

“[T]he abomination shall be seen in holy places, in convents, and then the demon shall make himself the king of hearts.”

“Rome will lose the Faith and become the seat of Antichrist.”

Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich

""a false church, and wicked men scheming against the Catholic Church and doing much harm–both in her own time and in the future. And actually saw in a vision this, the enemies of the Church tearing it down and trying to build a new one on strictly human plans–but none of the saints would lend a hand. Later, this church of men is destroyed and the saints of God join in to rebuild the true Church of God, which becomes more glorious than ever before".

What say the Fishies on this matter?


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True Church vs Apostate Church debate. - by Habitual_Ritual - 01-17-2012, 05:32 PM

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