Jan 21 Bp Williamson column
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(01-25-2012, 03:01 PM)Freudentaumel Wrote:
(01-25-2012, 02:48 PM)JayneK Wrote:
(01-25-2012, 07:32 AM)TrentCath Wrote:
(01-24-2012, 11:56 PM)JayneK Wrote:
(01-24-2012, 11:53 PM)Gerard Wrote: The bad bishops and bad Cardinals were appointed by the Popes.  When it was manifest that they were genuinely bad, the Popes did nothing to correct the issue. 

This is more true of JPII than of B16.

No, please use facts and not opinion or preconceived ideas. This is JUST as true of JpII as Benedict XVI who has approved the Neocats, blessed the loony charasmatics, made dodgy bishops cardinal and not got rid of bad bishops. Again please lets deal with issues as they are not how you want them to be.

I did not say that B16 was perfect in this regard, so coming up with some examples of his mistakes does not refute my assertion.  You need to show that he made just as many bad appointments as JPII did.  B16 obviously has not had time to do so, even if he were as lacking gifts in this area as JPII.  I suspect if we were to come up with some sort of bad appointment per year measurement, we would see a difference.  Are you aware some objective measurement of this or are you just countering my opinion with your opinion?
I have to agree with TrentCath here, I cannot see a significant change in the appointments of Bishops, but of course I can't back it up with numbers, either.
The only noticeable change that I know of (and that can also be backed up with numbers) is that under Benedict XVI the rate of Opus Dei Bishop appointments per year dropped significantly.
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May I add to that, the "Summorum Pontificum" issued Motu Proprio.  For what it´s worth
I say this in that fashion, because I haven't seen a rise in the Dioceasn TLM´s. Nor new TLM anywhere due to that decree.
I think, that in order to separate the rats from the cheese, he should outlaw or abrogate the NO mass.
Then well know who the real Catholics are.
People are just not asking for the Usus Antiquor rite.
And the bishops are real happy about this.

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Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by a83192 - 01-21-2012, 10:38 AM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Gerard - 01-21-2012, 11:16 AM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Stubborn - 01-21-2012, 01:24 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Josué - 01-21-2012, 04:30 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by ggreg - 01-21-2012, 06:30 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Warrenton - 01-21-2012, 07:16 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by tmw89 - 01-21-2012, 07:22 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Josué - 01-22-2012, 12:37 AM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-22-2012, 09:08 AM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by dahveed - 01-22-2012, 09:10 AM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-22-2012, 10:50 AM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-22-2012, 11:11 AM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Justin - 01-22-2012, 11:35 AM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Meg - 01-22-2012, 11:55 AM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-22-2012, 11:58 AM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-22-2012, 11:59 AM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Meg - 01-22-2012, 12:03 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-22-2012, 12:37 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Stubborn - 01-22-2012, 12:43 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Meg - 01-22-2012, 12:51 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-22-2012, 01:12 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Meg - 01-22-2012, 01:30 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-22-2012, 01:34 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Meg - 01-22-2012, 01:35 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Warrenton - 01-22-2012, 01:51 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Stubborn - 01-22-2012, 02:29 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-22-2012, 02:38 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by calicatholic - 01-22-2012, 08:12 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Stubborn - 01-22-2012, 09:32 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by calicatholic - 01-23-2012, 01:41 AM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Dragonslayer - 01-23-2012, 02:14 AM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Tapatio - 01-23-2012, 02:27 AM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Guardian - 01-23-2012, 02:54 AM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Stubborn - 01-23-2012, 07:35 AM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-23-2012, 08:05 AM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Jesse - 01-23-2012, 02:09 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Historian - 01-23-2012, 02:53 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-23-2012, 02:58 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Jesse - 01-23-2012, 03:04 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-23-2012, 03:07 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Historian - 01-23-2012, 03:10 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-23-2012, 03:15 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Historian - 01-23-2012, 03:25 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-23-2012, 03:43 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Historian - 01-23-2012, 04:03 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-23-2012, 04:09 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Justin - 01-23-2012, 09:05 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-23-2012, 09:25 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by JayneK - 01-23-2012, 09:52 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-23-2012, 10:01 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by JayneK - 01-23-2012, 10:43 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-23-2012, 11:48 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Gerard - 01-24-2012, 12:02 AM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by calicatholic - 01-24-2012, 11:35 AM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by JayneK - 01-24-2012, 12:58 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by JayneK - 01-24-2012, 01:02 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by JayneK - 01-24-2012, 01:08 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Old Salt - 01-24-2012, 01:19 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Old Salt - 01-24-2012, 01:34 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Old Salt - 01-24-2012, 01:47 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by JayneK - 01-24-2012, 02:01 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by JayneK - 01-24-2012, 02:27 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by JayneK - 01-24-2012, 02:34 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-24-2012, 03:48 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-24-2012, 03:50 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-24-2012, 03:52 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-24-2012, 03:53 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by JayneK - 01-24-2012, 04:30 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-24-2012, 04:33 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by JayneK - 01-24-2012, 04:36 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by JayneK - 01-24-2012, 04:39 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-24-2012, 05:04 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-24-2012, 05:04 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Gerard - 01-24-2012, 11:28 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Gerard - 01-24-2012, 11:31 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by JayneK - 01-24-2012, 11:33 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Gerard - 01-24-2012, 11:53 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by JayneK - 01-24-2012, 11:56 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-25-2012, 07:32 AM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by JayneK - 01-25-2012, 02:48 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-25-2012, 02:59 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by Tapatio - 01-25-2012, 03:08 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-25-2012, 03:10 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by JayneK - 01-25-2012, 03:13 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-25-2012, 03:15 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by JayneK - 01-25-2012, 03:16 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-25-2012, 03:17 PM
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Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-25-2012, 03:25 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by tmw89 - 01-25-2012, 03:29 PM
Re: Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by TrentCath - 01-25-2012, 03:32 PM
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