WHO do you blame more for the post-Vatican II issues - John XXIII or Paul VI?
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(01-31-2012, 04:17 PM)JayneK Wrote:
(01-31-2012, 03:59 PM)Gerard Wrote: Notice how the attitude among some is that the Popes get all of the positive credit but none of the blame for anything that goes wrong? 

Assigning blame among dead people is kind of pointless even when they aren't popes.  It is more useful to think about solving the problems than to apportion blame among the dead.

So, there's no learning from the mistakes and errors of others?  Popes have to invent the wheel over and over again?  Tradition is all about looking at what has worked and what has not worked and building on the successes and using the errors of the past.  

Understanding and pointing out heresy is the very substance of making a Magisterial definition.  "This and not this" is what a definition is all about.  

The Council of Trent worked out very well, that is reasonably a better model for a council than Vatican II which provoked more confusion than any that preceded it.    Knowing Vatican II and the policies of the Popes that supported it can be pointed to in the future to say, "Been there, done that.  It didn't work and here's why..."  

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Re: WHO do you blame more for the post-Vatican II issues - John XXIII or Paul VI? - by Gerard - 01-31-2012, 04:32 PM



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