proof from logic alone of the immortal nature of the human soul
(05-12-2012, 06:08 PM)per_passionem_eius Wrote:
(05-12-2012, 02:47 PM)Parmandur Wrote:
(05-12-2012, 11:09 AM)per_passionem_eius Wrote: OK, I do understand that the human soul is spiritual, I just don't understand why something spiritual can't die, as I've said. How is it that the spiritual soul does not have parts, which could separate and cause death?

The number 4 cannot die.  This particular set of 4 things might be added to, or subtracted from, divided or multiplied, and cease to be 4.  But 4 itself, it goes on.

(I'm sort of feeling my way around in the dark, so thank you for bearing with me.)

OK. But isn't the number 4 is a form without matter? I, on the other hand, am a form (my soul) and matter (my body). The number 4 doesn't have a body that will die, so it's easy for me to see how it can't die. But what about my soul?!

No problem, it's an interesting question.

The number 4 is a form without matter.  The soul, divorced from the body, is as well.  St. Bernard teaches that the soul, to fully become its form, must have a body, which is the ultimate secret of detachment from the body: that the soul and body  are a unit, and thus resurrection is the ultimate fulfillment of the form of the soul, rather than reincarnation or become "pure form" or something.

I think here we hit on an interesting point: it is not that we need revelation to know that the soul is immortal, but that Resurrection in bodily form is the end game.  Pagans know their souls will go on, but they theorize transmigration (known as reincarnation, but a bit of a misnomer) or becoming pure spirit as opposed to the revealed Christian belief in a bodily resurrection.  We can know that there is a God by natural reason; but the Trinity requires belief in special revelation.  We can know that our souls are immortal purely by reason; but we need special revelation to believe in the resurrection of the dead.

And we can say that people can know there is a God, and can know their souls are immortal without any need of revelation for a blessedly simple reason: they did and they do.  That actuality proves possibility is an old, old standard.

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Re: proof from logic alone of the immortal nature of the human soul - by Parmandur - 05-12-2012, 08:12 PM

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