proof from logic alone of the immortal nature of the human soul
(05-18-2012, 03:47 PM)per_passionem_eius Wrote:
(05-18-2012, 03:38 PM)Parmandur Wrote: Well, to borrow from a popular source, "They are not necessarily meant to be self-sufficient 'proofs' of God’s existence; as worded, they propose only to explain what it is 'all men mean' when they speak of “God”. Many scholars point out that St. Thomas’s actual arguments regarding the existence and nature of God are to be found liberally scattered throughout his major treatises, and that the five ways are little more than an introductory sketch of how the word 'God' can be defined without reference to special revelation (i.e., religious experience)."

Could you demonstrate how any of his 5 points could reasonably be argued against?

Without the framework of Aristotelian ideas of cause and effect, the arguments are hard to make sense of, given how the use of the words has changed after the Medieval era.  Indeed, using modern scientific definitions of some these words, sometimes they make no sense.  You might want to check this book out, it gets into these issues: "Edward Feser has argued in his book Aquinas: A Beginner’s Guide that Dawkins, Hume, Kant, and most modern philosophers do not have a correct understanding of Aquinas at all; that the arguments are often difficult to translate into modern terms; and that the Five Ways are just a brief summary directed towards beginners and must be understood in the context of Aristotle’s Metaphysics and Aquinas’ other writings. He argues that Aquinas’ five ways have never been adequately refuted when thus considered."

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Re: proof from logic alone of the immortal nature of the human soul - by Parmandur - 05-18-2012, 04:04 PM

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