ORthodox perspective of Traditionalist Catholics
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Not his authority, they rejected his accuracy concerning the facts.  Had JPII excommunicated Hans Kung for virtually anything he believes, they would have understood and recognized it as a legitimate use of papal authority. 

The SSPX didn't "separate themselves" from anything.  The post-conciliar Popes have separated themselves from their duty to confirm the brethren and uphold the faith and they have separated themselves from their willingness to invoke the Magisterial authority of the Church.   In essence, the Pope likes a policy that is akin to social engineering, he gives a speech that is mainly political with religious words thrown in, it gets passed on mistakenly as authentic teaching and the Pope does not want to contradict his personal interests with his papal authority.  So, he leaves the magisterial element out of the equation and allows the errors to fester as policies.   That is why there will be no magisterial syllable on incorrect interpretations of Vatican II.  He doesn't want to correct the errors.  The errros are bound by human respect for the person of the Pope, not the keys of Peter.
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THIS.
The popes since Vatican II have never declared anything infallibly and they never will  because it goes against the modernist principle- specifically the 3rd modernist pillar of evolving dogma. The SSPX would go sede before they accepted heresy as being infallibly declared by the pope- which obviously can't happen. The problem is that both the Ecclesia Dei and Sedevacantist stance exaggerate the infallible authority of the pope or the obedience owed to him. Yes, he is the supreme head of the Church on earth but Truth and its sources are still above him. The SSPX is obviously not in Schism since the pope remitted the accused excommunications... this means that they either were never truly excommunicated or that they still are and the pope does not have the power to remit sins.

Unam, the answer is you cling to both the Fathers and the visible structure, like the SSPX has been doing since 1970!

St. Robert Bellarmine states:      "Just as it is licit to resist the Pontiff who attacks the body, so also is it licit to resist him who attacks souls or destroys the civil order or above all, tries to destroy the Church. I say that it is licit to resist him by not doing what he orders and by impeding the execution of his will. It is not licit, however, to judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior. "(De Romano Pontifice. II.29.)
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Re: ORthodox perspective of Traditionalist Catholics - by mga - 05-12-2012, 09:15 PM



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