ORthodox perspective of Traditionalist Catholics
(05-12-2012, 09:22 PM)Crusader_Philly Wrote:
Quote:The problem is that both the Ecclesia Dei and Sedevacantist stance exaggerate the infallible authority of the pope or the obedience owed to him.

This is false. The sad fact of the matter is that since the early 1970s, there has been a tendency to limit and de-emphasize infallibility so much, in order to avoid the NO etc. The Bellarmine quote is not being read in context. It refers to resisting an evil command of the pope, not resisting liturgy, laws, discipline, encyclicals, and so on.

The next big falsehood is that VII was a "fallible, pastoral Council."

It was a fallible, pastoral council.  Pope John XXIII said as much.  The documents themselves sometimes begin with conspicuous disclaimers that the contents do not contract what has been already taught.

Show me where it was claimed that this was an infallible ecumenical council.  We can show, in the words of those who supported this contorted monstrosity, otherwise.

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Re: ORthodox perspective of Traditionalist Catholics - by kingtheoden - 05-12-2012, 09:30 PM

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