ORthodox perspective of Traditionalist Catholics
(05-12-2012, 06:39 PM)kingtheoden Wrote: The first few lines are jumbled nonsense meant to attack authentic Catholicism:

And where exactly would one look to find "authentic" Catholicism these days? Bishop Fellay? Bishop Williamson? The Vatican with it's clown masses and laypeople communing each other? Perhaps if you could point us in the right direction the attacks would be a little less nonsensical.  :LOL:

(05-12-2012, 06:39 PM)kingtheoden Wrote: This is full of contradictions: If traditionalists have become separatists for disobeying the Pope (who according to this hetetical schismatic writer is the source of tradition), what does that say of the Easterners who to this day claim to excommunicate the Holy Father?

Any bishop who ceases to hold the Orthodox Faith has separated themselves, regardless of which throne they sit upon. On the other hand, on pain of eternal damnation you are required to believe that it's impossible for the Pope to teach heresy and that you must give consent in issues of faith and morals even when not taught ex cathedra.

The point is the SSPX are denying your own dogmas by not submitting to the Pope. They are in essence destroying the very thing they propose to save. Of course for us it proposes no issues for our faith, whereas for you it absolutely destroys the very foundations of your ecclesiology and undermines any justification for your continued separation from us.

(05-12-2012, 06:39 PM)kingtheoden Wrote: In addition, this assessment betrays a rather blunt and profound confusion regarding the Papacy, as well as the importance of tradition in the Church.  It is just plain wrong and there is no need to delineate the specifics.

The documents of the papacy are pretty clear. As to the importance of Tradition that also is plainly obvious. For Catholics Tradition is whatever the men who currently constitute the Magisterium says it is. Works fantastic when it's defining things you agree with, not so well when it's redefining things believed for centuries. 

(05-12-2012, 06:39 PM)kingtheoden Wrote: Easterners have a massive pride problem that approaches the blindness of the Jews.


Take a look at the Dictatus Papae and tell me who is prideful! That being said, if the Roman faithful had been a little more prideful maybe they wouldn't have rolled over like dumb sheep while the Second Vatican Council gutted the faith they had received from their fathers. Perhaps that's a subject for another thread......

(05-12-2012, 06:39 PM)kingtheoden Wrote: The loss in 1453 was, in my view, Divine punishment for their intrigue against the West, who came to their aid and fought their own ****ing wars.  It was my ancestors in France, England and Italy who fought in the Holy Land while these scumbags were busying themselves with fantasies as to why the Roman Church was the seat of the enemy.  Not to mention trading with the enemy.

Would you say the destruction of your Church since Vatican II and all that has followed such as the pedophilia scandal and the cover up are Divine punishment for something? Perhaps the intrigue of the Unia?


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